* [PATCH] BibTeX-mode: add eprint field as potential source for entry's URL
@ 2024-12-01 19:05 Leo Stein
2024-12-01 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Leo Stein @ 2024-12-01 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
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This is a fairly trivial patch: the eprint field (like doi and url fields)
is another field with (AFAIK) a universal format that maps to a URL. This
makes the contents of the eprint field automatically linked to the arXiv
eprint associated to the bibtex entry.
Best,
Leo
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From 56ae41b168b75b7fc036a68e08802de3b2cb4cb2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "Leo C. Stein" <leo.stein@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 12:49:46 -0600
Subject: [PATCH] BibTeX-mode: add eprint field as potential source for entry's
URL
---
lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el | 3 +++
1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
index 99a97c9bb8d..c77953489a7 100644
--- a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
+++ b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
@@ -1443,6 +1443,9 @@ Used by `bibtex-complete-crossref-cleanup' and `bibtex-copy-summary-as-kill'."
(defcustom bibtex-generate-url-list
'((("url" . ".*:.*"))
+ (("eprint" . ".*")
+ "https://arxiv.org/abs/%s"
+ ("eprint" ".*" 0))
(("doi" . "10\\.[0-9]+/.+")
"https://doi.org/%s"
("doi" ".*" 0)))
--
2.47.0
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* Re: [PATCH] BibTeX-mode: add eprint field as potential source for entry's URL
2024-12-01 19:05 [PATCH] BibTeX-mode: add eprint field as potential source for entry's URL Leo Stein
@ 2024-12-01 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 13:08 ` Roland Winkler
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-01 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo Stein, Roland Winkler; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Leo Stein <leo.stein@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 13:05:33 -0600
>
> This is a fairly trivial patch: the eprint field (like doi and url fields) is another field with (AFAIK) a universal
> format that maps to a URL. This makes the contents of the eprint field automatically linked to the arXiv eprint
> associated to the bibtex entry.
>
> Best,
> Leo
>
> From 56ae41b168b75b7fc036a68e08802de3b2cb4cb2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: "Leo C. Stein" <leo.stein@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 12:49:46 -0600
> Subject: [PATCH] BibTeX-mode: add eprint field as potential source for entry's
> URL
>
> ---
> lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el | 3 +++
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
> index 99a97c9bb8d..c77953489a7 100644
> --- a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
> +++ b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
> @@ -1443,6 +1443,9 @@ Used by `bibtex-complete-crossref-cleanup' and `bibtex-copy-summary-as-kill'."
>
> (defcustom bibtex-generate-url-list
> '((("url" . ".*:.*"))
> + (("eprint" . ".*")
> + "https://arxiv.org/abs/%s"
> + ("eprint" ".*" 0))
> (("doi" . "10\\.[0-9]+/.+")
> "https://doi.org/%s"
> ("doi" ".*" 0)))
> --
> 2.47.0
>
Roland, any comments?
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* Re: [PATCH] BibTeX-mode: add eprint field as potential source for entry's URL
2024-12-01 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-02 13:08 ` Roland Winkler
2024-12-02 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Roland Winkler @ 2024-12-02 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Leo Stein, emacs-devel
On Sun, Dec 01 2024, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> diff --git a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
>> index 99a97c9bb8d..c77953489a7 100644
>> --- a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
>> +++ b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
>> @@ -1443,6 +1443,9 @@ Used by `bibtex-complete-crossref-cleanup' and `bibtex-copy-summary-as-kill'."
>>
>> (defcustom bibtex-generate-url-list
>> '((("url" . ".*:.*"))
>> + (("eprint" . ".*")
>> + "https://arxiv.org/abs/%s"
>> + ("eprint" ".*" 0))
>> (("doi" . "10\\.[0-9]+/.+")
>> "https://doi.org/%s"
>> ("doi" ".*" 0)))
>
> Roland, any comments?
The above patch is very arXiv-specific. All this goes beyond
old-fashioned BibTeX. But the documentation for biblatex (current:
version 3.20 from CTAN) says in Sec. 3.14.7 "Electronic Publishing
Information" how the field "eprint" should be used in combination with a
field "eprinttype" to identify an electronically published document.
Arxiv's usage is not compatible with this. Instead of "eprinttype"
arXiv uses a field "archivePrefix", and the field "primaryClass" used by
arXiv should probably be replaced by the optional field "eprintclass"
mentioned in the biblatex documentation.
To the best of my knowledge, neither the arXiv approach nor the different
approach suggested by the biblatex documentation have found a widespread
use in real life.
The user variable bibtex-generate-url-list can be configured to work
either way, as suggested by the OP or as suggested by the biblatex
documentation. Here it seems to me the best solution is to keep the
default of bibtex-generate-url-list as it is now and let users configure
this variable as desired / needed.
Note also that arXiv also provides a field "url" that is already
supported by the default value of bibtex-generate-url-list.
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* Re: [PATCH] BibTeX-mode: add eprint field as potential source for entry's URL
2024-12-02 13:08 ` Roland Winkler
@ 2024-12-02 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-02 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roland Winkler; +Cc: leo.stein, emacs-devel
> From: Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>
> Cc: Leo Stein <leo.stein@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 07:08:20 -0600
>
> On Sun, Dec 01 2024, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> diff --git a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
> >> index 99a97c9bb8d..c77953489a7 100644
> >> --- a/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
> >> +++ b/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el
> >> @@ -1443,6 +1443,9 @@ Used by `bibtex-complete-crossref-cleanup' and `bibtex-copy-summary-as-kill'."
> >>
> >> (defcustom bibtex-generate-url-list
> >> '((("url" . ".*:.*"))
> >> + (("eprint" . ".*")
> >> + "https://arxiv.org/abs/%s"
> >> + ("eprint" ".*" 0))
> >> (("doi" . "10\\.[0-9]+/.+")
> >> "https://doi.org/%s"
> >> ("doi" ".*" 0)))
> >
> > Roland, any comments?
>
> The above patch is very arXiv-specific. All this goes beyond
> old-fashioned BibTeX. But the documentation for biblatex (current:
> version 3.20 from CTAN) says in Sec. 3.14.7 "Electronic Publishing
> Information" how the field "eprint" should be used in combination with a
> field "eprinttype" to identify an electronically published document.
> Arxiv's usage is not compatible with this. Instead of "eprinttype"
> arXiv uses a field "archivePrefix", and the field "primaryClass" used by
> arXiv should probably be replaced by the optional field "eprintclass"
> mentioned in the biblatex documentation.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, neither the arXiv approach nor the different
> approach suggested by the biblatex documentation have found a widespread
> use in real life.
>
> The user variable bibtex-generate-url-list can be configured to work
> either way, as suggested by the OP or as suggested by the biblatex
> documentation. Here it seems to me the best solution is to keep the
> default of bibtex-generate-url-list as it is now and let users configure
> this variable as desired / needed.
I agree. Since this is a user option, too-specific changes in it
should be the matter of the user, not of changing the default.
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