From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package c-intro-and-ref -- was Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 07:45:25 +0200 Message-ID: <865xnyznre.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86ser87rut.fsf@gnu.org> <86cyia4503.fsf@gnu.org> <87bjxsbc8h.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86a5db1vc6.fsf@gnu.org> <8734j3awd7.fsf@jeremybryant.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37769"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Jeremy Bryant Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 06:46:28 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ4h1-0009gS-Ap for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 06:46:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ4gJ-0005RN-Uj; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:45:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ4gH-0005Qq-Ri for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:45:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ4gF-0006lq-QQ; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:45:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=/y1G5+YLpu+NwNXm5xJIcYPbolKng9m269jX3tjygQs=; b=ZVhhGASalpZD mp/UDEHi33x9WikhcDaYh44wbxO8uKoVywxHYkv0Grky9hen4t4ZbGBAzQVrBf6bkWFS1Gwwddcfe gSrRQrvxErglJbXHVQ4CAeJ5pOtMxKIwNFOCAs+NxClMLMi4m3etyNs/6yP4GfW4mRwmYRQ/dLehn IlGXu0RCEIyVyr5DkIKffFFLPkOfezQlbVFMl/InMgyuXLeiV5u1e8Jp7yn1eQw/xaeSt1r7XQWEK osLxN/VfS6j30youo5GJGklngnhLBFrdgxP9Bm8sHz6jo2wORHA6E2wY53/T4X3/Fo/QvBcR8DcC0 KR/Xw+NBAetqO/x+xQNXMw==; In-Reply-To: <8734j3awd7.fsf@jeremybryant.net> (message from Jeremy Bryant on Wed, 04 Dec 2024 22:58:44 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326066 Archived-At: > From: Jeremy Bryant > Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, Stefan Monnier > > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 22:58:44 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Are we providing packages that include only Info manuals, which > > document stuff that is not specific to Emacs? Because I don't see how > > it would be a good idea to have this as an ELPA package. > > I hear that maybe it's not a good idea, as this is not Emacs specific. > > >From a complementary point of view, reading this list it appears that > there is a smaller number of C contributors to Emacs, compared to Lisp, > and more C contributors are needed to work on Emacs. > > Can we facilitate C documentation? > For example. The info-look.el subsystem already adds lookup facility for manuals such > as (libc). Wouldn't it be useful to also have c.info similarly > available and to aid in Emacs C development? That is > part of the motivation. It's okay to extend info-look.el to use this manual (and perhaps also the sibling GNU C manual?), but please note that we do NOT provide the glibc Info manual on ELPA, although it is referenced by info-look.el (and I personally have that manual installed on my system, even though my main development machine doesn't use glibc). > The c.texi file starts with a mention of GNU C > > @direntry > * C: (c). GNU C Language Intro and Reference Manual > @end direntry Yes.