From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Newbie Info Pages Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 20:53:09 +0300 Message-ID: <8634lyb20q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r09owat8.fsf@gmail.com> <289AFFBC-16A4-4728-B702-D99045B6D7FF@summerstar.me> <86a5g6be5n.fsf@gnu.org> <867cbab7z8.fsf@gnu.org> <0C6E4C4C-CC20-49CC-9498-2448C0645D8D@summerstar.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17503"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, suhailsingh247@gmail.com, corwin@bru.st, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Summer Emacs Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 17 19:53:57 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sqcOi-0004RK-4z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 19:53:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqcO9-0008MW-UI; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqcO7-0008ME-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:53:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqcO6-0000kd-88; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:53:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=t5Un0cl1PnGIeKMbQu95u/YzJF5MzxQ2whzLUWpleOQ=; b=RTCbczQ+FDDcr8dAkV3l c+cehXh7PTNJDSkvzixDTuRr/N9Q5lwXQC9slNSWiTA+dF0wGwAt9agTYcJtHxTPJD+zlCtMC2V68 be3KYD7tiNUBhaUmQn9YH7VIU+uh5slY4l/hHRq1tUVAdk94V49r79yfUh2UElm36QfFvyDyqMfB4 6uPd8S2O+Ui99ZEC0pw5kkoXfXdNuFzlQBXZVZ+1ua9+akAQVtCSsA/fDT78tZl11PPZFujRKqnfi W0y0Ml3Nc6qbYp48VYfraxp7OxNvdL7eBUELocuDCR6nzAP66zkrqzeOEZ8RTt/BlXdeOv+T67QGE 6mcgGb/F0zQrbQ==; In-Reply-To: <0C6E4C4C-CC20-49CC-9498-2448C0645D8D@summerstar.me> (message from Summer Emacs on Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:49:19 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323702 Archived-At: > From: Summer Emacs > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:49:19 +0200 > Cc: rms@gnu.org, > suhailsingh247@gmail.com, > corwin@bru.st, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > OK, but then Richard's question still stands, and it would be good to > > hear your view on the difference between what you propose and the > > tutorial. Because I could think about a few follow-up questions, such > > as: > > > > . can we extend the tutorial with the information you would like to > > have in the document you propose? > > . maybe make what you propose to be "tutorial, part2"? > > . or how about a tutorial whose audience is non-programmers? > > > > etc. > > You kinda have to read what I’ve written so far. 😀 I have. It is still hard for me to know where are you heading, since what you have there basically just mentions in general all kinds of capabilities and features you consider important. It doesn't teach the reader anything, at least not yet. So I guess I'll have to wait till you get more "meat" there. Thanks.