From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:15:56 +0200 Message-ID: <861pys6i8z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86zflglu3h.fsf@aarsen.me> <86iks47qun.fsf@gnu.org> <865xo4h9w7.fsf@aarsen.me> <867c8k7aig.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18614"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: arsen@aarsen.me, jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 01 07:16:36 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tHdFz-0004gX-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 07:16:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHdFb-0004nl-AB; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 01:16:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHdFZ-0004nb-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 01:16:09 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHdFX-0001ve-UR; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 01:16:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=V2Xvu7liONTWPxBJhWja+d7IoZC7g0jYGTlT1LQKxlQ=; b=UT1hCY0kc7k6 +Cpy64aZjD+ANblpIbgU1QHkuHSzVMqGYz+4QrVYkGPB6PHKr2JemYGDCEefSDskZAFSQ1SJow7AJ +00QD9Kxnie+QsNrMzmGjluSE1TMTYbnci5Hn1cs6OxdYtZ0eXnAkVlHSD6eBP3UvYcAnJMTRohSb Wwq9kbGQJd/q5v3svc1SKrYU8rSqGtSCYQuM01B0amhKKOYM11vraUxZOaJ7H5ePF/hmMnrR70ScT cu0DksL6mq7hC7nhtHdbSKfniWaDSgVCJx049dWgQzkqo4E7Ftmp5/GHb63MIRNc8TZjJZDU5pRB7 6BS8PlPz34lkhOx/+jO/sQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:09:49 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325901 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "jb@jeremybryant.net" , > "emacs-devel@gnu.org" > , > "rms@gnu.org" > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:09:49 +0000 > > > Actually, I believe most people read the HTML > > version of the Texinfo documentation. > > Interesting. Do you have some quantitative data > about the percentage of readings of HTML vs Info > by (non-Emacs) users? > > I don't think otherwise - just wondering what > backs up your belief about this. My evidence is that when people report problems with GNU manuals, they almost always show a URL of the HTML documentation. Also, the number of bug reports about the stand-alone Info reader is almost zero. I don't have any other data, but I cannot think about any other way people who don't use Emacs can read the documentation of GCC, GDB, GNU Make, and other GNU tools.