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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: pipcet@protonmail.com
Cc: spd@toadstyle.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:07:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <861pxrsk1z.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864j2nskup.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:50:22 +0200)

> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:50:22 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: spd@toadstyle.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > > What do we expect to learn from this,
> > 
> > It tests the current code, which does this:
> > 
> > When a signal arrives, and we can't handle it because we might have
> > interrupted MPS, we mark the signal as pending in the igc structure.  At
> > some point later, we check the igc structure for pending signals,
> > reraise them, and unmask them.
> > 
> > Gerd's experience suggests that the "some point later" happens too late.
> > This patch gives us measurements.
> > 
> > It's unrelated to the OS scheduler, AFAICS.
> 
> Ah, okay.  I note that if we'd block signals when calling MPS and
> unblock on exit, then these delays couldn't have happened, AFAIU.

But OTOH, if this delaying of a signal affects responsiveness, then
all we need to do is exempt SIGSEGV from being delayed, right?  This
signal-delay mechanism was invented for SIGPROF, SIGCHLD, and SIGALRM,
but there's no reason to delay SIGSEGV.

And AFAIU, on macOS there's no SIGSEGV anyway, is that right?  So why
does this delaying affect responsiveness?

Or what am I missing?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-28 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-28 13:24 igc, macOS avoiding signals Sean Devlin
2024-12-28 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 14:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 14:45     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:13       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:23         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:39         ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  7:51           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  8:02             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  8:47               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  9:29                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  9:47                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:54                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:05                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:27                     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:53                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:05                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 15:05                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:32                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 14:59                         ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:24                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:25                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:34                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:02                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 20:03                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:30                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 16:57                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:41                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 17:49                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 18:33                                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:37                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:15                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 19:55                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31  7:34                                       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31  9:19                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31  9:51                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 10:00                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:49                                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31  9:51                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:15                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 14:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:05                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:14                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:20                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:12                                               ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:31                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:37                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:39                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 10:09                                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 13:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:29                                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:08                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:07                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:14                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:19                                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:31                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:40                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 14:55                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:07                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:13                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:16                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 12:42                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:40                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:53                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:02                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:32                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:52                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:18                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:23                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:11             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:13               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:53           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 10:46         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:00           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:07           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 15:12 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 17:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 18:40     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 18:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:07         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-12-28 19:20           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 20:54               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  5:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:15         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 16:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  2:21   ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-29 12:22     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 15:01       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-29 19:44         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30  6:16           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:51             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:09               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:28                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  5:24         ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-30  6:17           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  5:23       ` Sean Devlin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-28  6:40 Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 12:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 12:55   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 13:50     ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-29  8:02       ` Helmut Eller

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