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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: offby1@blarg.net, lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:03:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85zmihfvzh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3wtdl8vo3.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:52:28 +0200")

storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Strike the complexity.  Use of a prefix arg to make it possible to
>> post-edit the command is, IMO, a good idea.  
>
> It is a _nice_ idea, but I'm not sure it is a _good_ idea.
>
> Using the prefix arg for this purpose takes away the simple way to
> select the "old behaviour" shortcut (which Eli suggested as the way
> to go).

Well, you'd have to press RET a few more times then: filling in empty
arguments will more or less land you with the old behavior.

> One thing we could (should?) do is to enter the final command from
> non-C-u usage into the grep-find-history, so it would be easily
> accessible (for tweaking) on a subsequent use of C-u M-x grep-find
> in case the first run didn't give the desired results.

But if you _know_ in advance that the first run is not going to give
you the desired results, having to start it nevertheless for the sake
of being able to edit it afterwards seems pretty backward.

I think the idea of entering the final command into the history is
dandy in itself, but having to execute the command as a precursor of
being allowed to edit it...  Well...

>> Quite often one wants to start a command that is almost, but not
>> quite, like the default recipe.
>
> So tweak the grep-find-command-template instead...

I don't find that having to redefine an Elisp command for a one-shot
application is the most convenient user interface.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-19 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-18 12:57 [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument] Richard Stallman
2006-04-18 14:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-18 14:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-18 15:11     ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-04-18 15:18       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-04-19  8:59         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19  9:15           ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-19  9:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-19 11:41             ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 12:23               ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 12:51                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 13:09                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 21:13                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19 13:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-19 13:28                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 13:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-19 14:09                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 14:58                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 15:10                           ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 16:59                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-04-19 17:08                             ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 14:52                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 15:03                       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-04-19 18:10                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-19 18:15                     ` Drew Adams
2006-04-19 18:23                     ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 18:34                       ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-19 21:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19 12:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-18 15:27     ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-19  4:17     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19  8:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-19 21:12         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-20  9:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21  8:27           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-21 14:47             ` Magnus Henoch
2006-04-21 17:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 20:04                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-21 20:40                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 21:35                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-22 12:03             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-22 12:41               ` David Kastrup
2006-04-23 16:06                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-23 16:19                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-22 23:02               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-23 21:58                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-23 22:06                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:51                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 12:04                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-25 16:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 12:10                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-24 22:46                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-25 16:47                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 11:05                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-24 11:11                     ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 11:24                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:31                         ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 11:43                           ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:52                             ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 17:52                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 18:16                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 20:38                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-04-25 16:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-26  8:27                           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-27  4:36                             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-25  9:06                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-29  3:50                     ` Richard Stallman

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