From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cursor doesn't show through transparent images in emacs 22, unlike emacs 21 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:03:00 +0200 Message-ID: <85zmdx2o5n.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <2cd46e7f0608181622w23c7d2b0h9b963deeadfd1c06@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608191849g521593acm1f9dbc355315ffd6@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608200810ge8885f7l7ffc88fd30a8a3eb@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156233855 11461 80.91.229.2 (22 Aug 2006 08:04:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ken Manheimer , storm@cua.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 22 10:04:12 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFRF1-0004oN-2G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:04:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFRF0-0003kw-F0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFREQ-0003Z0-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFREO-0003Xl-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFREM-0003X3-W3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GFRLv-0006ax-U5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:11:15 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GFREE-0001TJ-VY; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:19 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 07C701D2AC13; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:03:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:09:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58700 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > with this bug, however, it's hard to > tell whether or not the cursor is in the window or another. > > I see why this is a problem. > > So I suppose that anything which makes the cursor visible > would solve the problem. Right? I don't know why Ken has chosen not to reply on the list, but he told me in private that he has disabled cursor blinking (or rather, lets it commence only after 30 seconds). Of course, the blinking will make a very visible difference for the default settings. So our worry is just for people who have tampered with the defaults. His proposal to use transparency is not really useful except for special cases since a) images are not always the size of his small icons, and so could be vastly more obnoxious when blinking b) images don't all have transparency. Different ways to do this: a) offer to make the cursor border on selected frames thicker b) offer to use a different cursor color for selected frames -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum