From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Folding emacsclient into emacs Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:56:42 +0200 Message-ID: <85zlziw3w5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87ir6gtx7w.fsf_-_@olgas.newt.com> <85bqc7hfau.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <868x79slkb.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <857imscvzn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ps0e71k4.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190249837 23655 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2007 00:57:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 20 02:57:16 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYALw-0001a9-SG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:57:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYALv-0007be-8N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYALr-0007aj-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYALp-0007ZZ-PY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:57:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYALo-0007Z6-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.46]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IYALo-000892-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.21]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A62331E7B1; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:56:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA7C28EBD3; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:56:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-028-143.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.28.143]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35B9312768; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:56:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id DC06C1C002B3; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:56:42 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87ps0e71k4.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu\, 20 Sep 2007 02\:45\:19 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4349/Thu Sep 20 00:46:46 2007 on mail-in-03.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79340 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > Much simpler heuristic would be checking for the existence of the > dot emacs: if .emacs exists in the user's home directory this > definitely means that the user is not a complete beginner Disagree. Just click "Options/Word Wrap in Text Modes" and "Options/Save Options" and you qualify as an expert without startup screen access? No. Anyway, first experiences are important. If Emacs refuses to do what is asked of it, that is not a good sign. Either the splash screen info is important, and then we want the user to _know_ how he'll get it whenever he finally chooses to do so, or it isn't, and then frankly the whole discussion would be pointless. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum