From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding M-x iwconfig to net-utils.el Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:19:11 +0100 Message-ID: <85zlu9qicw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87lk5wkh1c.fsf@rabkins.net> <87hcgkjcy9.fsf@rabkins.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202635182 21156 80.91.229.12 (10 Feb 2008 09:19:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , yoni@rabkins.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 10 10:20:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JO8Lz-0006dS-IL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:20:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JO8LW-0001q3-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:19:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JO8LR-0001py-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:19:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JO8LP-0001pm-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JO8LP-0001pj-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:19:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-09.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.49]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JO8LH-0003yL-UE; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-15-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-15-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.32]) by mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9943029A5; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:19:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-15-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FDD7240CA; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:19:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-055-108.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.55.108]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37C823B28E; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:19:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id EE08C1D7E69E; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:19:12 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:20:38 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5763/Sun Feb 10 05:54:11 2008 on mail-in-05.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88620 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > PS. It's funny how people often switch to the past tense when writing > certain ChangeLog entries (eg: "rename", "move"). > > I have always used "deleted" and "renamed", past tense. One can argue about the "past tense" of "deleted xxx.c", since it can be short hand for "xxx.c is deleted" (clearly present tense) or "I have deleted xxx.c" (perfect tense, describing the current state). The grammar of verb-less sentence fragments is at least debatable. Not that I want to propose debating it: I don't think there is anything that needs fixing in current practice. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum