From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Amendments in calc-units.el Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:24:31 +0200 Message-ID: <85y84u7fdc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87hdbihexg.fsf@wilson.rwth-aachen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1129406596 306 80.91.229.2 (15 Oct 2005 20:03:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 15 22:03:07 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EQsDw-0000kf-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:01:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EQsDw-0001jV-G9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:01:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EQsDc-0001eO-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EQsDb-0001do-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EQsDb-0001dj-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EQsDa-0004Zp-T7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EQsDa-00012P-AO; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 5B13D1C4CE10; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:24:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Torsten Bronger In-Reply-To: <87hdbihexg.fsf@wilson.rwth-aachen.de> (Torsten Bronger's message of "Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:23:55 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:44093 Archived-At: Torsten Bronger writes: > I suggest two renamings of unit abbreviations in calc-units.el, in > the attached patch. > > "pt" should become "pint" in order to make room for the typographic > point (pt). I think this is more practical since the latter is much > more significant for calc usage, and its current abbreviation "tpt" > isn't used outside calc. > > Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not > *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). It is pretty widespread, I think. > *************** > *** 74,80 **** > ( L "1e-3 m^3" "Liter" ) > ( gal "4 qt" "US Gallon" ) > ( qt "2 pt" "Quart" ) > ! ( pt "2 cup" "Pint" ) > ( cup "8 ozfl" "Cup" ) > ( ozfl "2 tbsp" "Fluid Ounce" ) > ( floz "2 tbsp" "Fluid Ounce" ) > --- 74,80 ---- > ( L "1e-3 m^3" "Liter" ) > ( gal "4 qt" "US Gallon" ) > ( qt "2 pt" "Quart" ) > ! ( pint "2 cup" "Pint" ) > ( cup "8 ozfl" "Cup" ) > ( ozfl "2 tbsp" "Fluid Ounce" ) > ( floz "2 tbsp" "Fluid Ounce" ) So a quart now is two typographical points? Sorry, that does not sound right. Anyway, I think it unreasonable to work with gal, qt, but then require "pint". If gal and qt are the usual abbreviations, then I think the normally used abbreviation for pint should also be used. Sure, TeX users would prefer to have pt and bp, but I don't think at the price of making the Imperial system inconsistent. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum