From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:05:44 +0200 Message-ID: <85y7ibdaav.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> <86ejk4jtno.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182542779 29696 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2007 20:06:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org, hacksaw@hacksaw.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 22:06:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1pOb-0003WA-8J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:06:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1pOa-0000yI-S7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:06:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1pOB-0000nm-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1pOA-0000nM-Fi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1pOA-0000nI-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.46]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1pO8-00026o-8H; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.30]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4A131EBB0; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:05:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A571B8E65; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:05:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-100-087.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.100.87]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58241C3320; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:05:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B73291D0340C; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:05:44 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 22 Jun 2007 14\:51\:36 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.3/3493/Fri Jun 22 11:18:44 2007 on mail-in-05.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73653 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > By the way: I think that our choice of having the splash screen > displayed by default even when Emacs is called with a file name is a > mistake. Even more so if the same happens when using emacsclient. > > I decided to do this because I want beginning users to see the info in > the splash screen. Many of them specify a file name by habit carried > from other editors. Beginners would hardly be using emacsclient. Restricting the splash screen to once per Emacs session is quite enough. Anyway, _beginners_ would be clicking some icon to start Emacs, not use a command line. > This is important for the GNU Project, so I will not change the > decision. The GNU project should be fine with once a session. Having emacsclient frames for something like commit messages triggered from C-x v v show the splash screen is plainly disruptive. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum