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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	nick.steeves@uleth.ca, eliz@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PATCH to add euro symbol to French-{postfix, alt-postfix, prefix}	input methods
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:51:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85y792u0fy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1JVPmy-0006q3-2O@etlken.m17n.org> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:22:00 +0900")

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> In article <8563w6vipk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>> In fact, I find it somewhat silly to have different latin-x input
>> methods at all.  Why don't we replace them all with a single latin
>> input method, or with language specific ones?  It seems somewhat
>> pointless to have input methods that meticulously avoid producing a
>> certain character when this character can be produced by any number
>> of other means.
>
> I can think of one reason to have them.  While one is using
> latin-x-* input methods, he can think that he never type a
> character not included in latin-x.  In other word, if he
> wants to type a character not supproted by latin-x-* input
> methods, he must expect that his file can't be saved by
> latin-x.

So he does when using cut&paste, or quite a few other means of producing
characters.  I really don't think that we are doing people much of a
favor of maintaining a lot of slightly different character-set specific
input methods.  It would make more sense to have some mechanism complain
upon any way of inserting non-encodable characters (using buffer
modification hooks, for example), and then have just one generic
well-maintained latin input method rather than a dozen "forks".  It
would also be possible to auto-prune input methods depending on the
desired target encoding (for example, use the TeX input encoding for
accented letters but tell it not to produce things outside of latin-9).

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum




  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-01 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <87k5ktuf7d.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
     [not found]   ` <E1JTnvq-0008Ol-Rc@etlken.m17n.org>
     [not found]     ` <87mypo5x1e.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
     [not found]       ` <1204070698.4334.39.camel@Argo.Styx>
2008-02-28 19:24         ` PATCH to add euro symbol to French-{postfix, alt-postfix, prefix} input methods Chong Yidong
2008-02-28 20:00           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  2:26             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  4:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29  5:49                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  9:21                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-29 10:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 12:02               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 12:08                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 13:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 14:09                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 14:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 14:39                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-01  1:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01  2:02                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 14:45                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-01  1:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01 13:32                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-29 19:24                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 14:50                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-29 19:54               ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-29 21:38                 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01  8:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 10:31                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 11:22                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-03-01 11:51                       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2008-03-01 12:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 13:00                           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 14:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 19:53                               ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-02  4:41                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-01 12:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 23:09                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01 13:43                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-28 21:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29  9:56             ` Nick Steeves
2008-02-29 14:58             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-02  4:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29 19:54           ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-29 20:05             ` Jason Rumney

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