From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mouse-1-click-follows-link Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:07:21 +0200 Message-ID: <85wtox26vq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <17067.59794.984974.659746@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17070.1629.248799.723986@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118705344 30087 80.91.229.2 (13 Jun 2005 23:29:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 14 01:29:01 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhyMS-0007gh-Ub for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:28:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhyRL-0005ZR-WB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:34:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DhyPh-000591-5K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:32:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DhyPe-000582-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:32:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhyPb-000571-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:32:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DhyP2-0006Om-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:31:36 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DhyNC-000316-F6; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:29:45 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 09C481C4CE1A; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:07:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Nick Roberts In-Reply-To: <17070.1629.248799.723986@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:19:09 +1200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38762 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38762 Nick Roberts writes: > Drew Adams writes: > > In the compilation buffer mouse-face (and therefore mouse-1) only works > > on the file and line number while mouse-2 and RET work for the > > whole line. > > > > It would help if grep also worked this way. > > > > I disagree. My opinion: > > > > 1) mouse-1, RET, and mouse-2 should all behave similarly. What's > > good for mouse-2 is good for mouse-1 too. The challenge is to > > find the right default behavior (trade-off/compromise). > > > > 2) The entire line should be the hot zone (no "button"). Makes it > > very easy to scan lines and align text anywhere on the line with > > the proper hot zone. No need for your eye to move between the > > text (anywhere on the line) and the hot zone. > > Thats not much of a compromise! Jason's point about the touchpad > makes it even more important that the entire line should be *not* be > the hot zone. I don't get Jason's point. A place-finger-and-hold on a touchpad merely makes the mouse cursor accessible to movements on the pad. A tap-finger-then-place-and-hold actually sends a mouse-down event. The mouse-up gets generated when you release your finger from the touchpad. This is pretty much parallel with normal mouse usage. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum