From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:09:58 +0200 Message-ID: <85vebzq7vd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85ejinrqgk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <35917.128.165.123.18.1185998078.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1186002674 16076 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2007 21:11:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: herring@lanl.gov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 01 23:11:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IGLT8-0003f3-NG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:10:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IGLT7-0008GE-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IGLT3-0008G9-IV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IGLSz-0008Fx-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IGLSy-0008Fu-RW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.47]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IGLSy-00029t-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.30]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEB324B350; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:10:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.49]) by mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A791B8E45; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:10:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-017-017.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.17.17]) by mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E5F3425E5; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:10:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 54AB31C3E076; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:09:58 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <35917.128.165.123.18.1185998078.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> (Davis Herring's message of "Wed\, 1 Aug 2007 12\:54\:38 -0700 \(PDT\)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on mail-in-09.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75932 Archived-At: "Davis Herring" writes: >> But wearing the others out is not going to address the underlying >> technical _facts_ of their objections. It is not a matter of opinion >> that a string does not carry "file", "buffer", "whatever" markers >> associated with it. > > Why do you think we have text properties? We can even propertize > different parts of the string differently. So we can have > "namename" with (file t) on the first four characters and (buffer t) > on the others to name both the file and the buffer into which it > goes. Stefan (who wants ".") can mark that as (directory t > absolute nil) which takes care of the where-emacs-is-run-or-not > problem, and if the string is exactly "eval", then its property list > is evalled and we can do whatever else is needed. It is good to see a solution that is not confusing to beginners. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum