From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:43:53 +0200 Message-ID: <85vea1rfly.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87d4waxnw7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ejgq3pp6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190533457 22581 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2007 07:44:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 23 09:44:13 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZM8P-0007Qi-Vc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:44:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZM8N-00045I-Gc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:44:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZM8K-000446-NP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZM8I-00043R-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZM8I-00043L-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.43]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZM8I-00042Z-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.27]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D207543EC8; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:43:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5B423D3FA; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:43:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-000-085.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.0.85]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5D1376441; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:43:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B4F431C1F3DC; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:43:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87ejgq3pp6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sun\, 23 Sep 2007 14\:39\:49 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4364/Sun Sep 23 01:59:34 2007 on mail-in-06.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79553 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:25814 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Drew Adams writes: > > > But I remembered that we already have `mouse-3' on the mode-line > > bound to `mouse-delete-window'. > > Surely you didn't type that with a straight face! Jane Noob is > going to have the special meaning of button 3 on the modeline > memorized? I don't think so. There is a tooltip on the mode line, and Emacs' tooltips are enabled by default, usable and unobtrusive on all platforms with GUI. However, cough cough, the tool tip reads: mouse-1: select (drag to resize), mouse-2 = C-x 1, mouse-3 = C-x 0 So while we _have_ sort of a working announcement in place, it is utterly useless to beginners. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum