From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MS-Windows build using Posix configury Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 14:36:36 -0500 Message-ID: <85vc6c3z23.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: <83d2tu49lu.fsf@gnu.org> <837gjhnowi.fsf@gnu.org> <8338u4o39r.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjwbkmt2.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqrfkjvo.fsf@gnu.org> <838v3qebns.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqr9csah.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqr297da.fsf@gnu.org> <83txm34g6k.fsf@gnu.org> <83d2srt645.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5bfkmsz.fsf@yandex.ru> <85li7ba2i6.fsf@member.fsf.org> <831u93xbsl.fsf@gnu.org> <85li78ag4r.fsf@member.fsf.org> <83ehd0uuqh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369165055 10440 80.91.229.3 (21 May 2013 19:37:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:37:35 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 21 21:37:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UesNK-0001qa-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 May 2013 21:37:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45744 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UesNK-0008Lz-9Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 May 2013 15:37:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52924) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UesNF-0008K5-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2013 15:37:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UesNE-0000HP-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2013 15:37:29 -0400 Original-Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.5]:15812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UesNE-0000HB-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2013 15:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from TAKVER ([unknown] [71.241.247.125]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MN500000YH2ENE0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2013 14:36:54 -0500 (CDT) In-reply-to: <83ehd0uuqh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 21 May 2013 20:07:50 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.46.173.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159723 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, "make install" will create it, but that's not the point. See the > second part of the sentence I wrote and you quoted above. The point > is that I want to encourage people to install ports of GNU and Unix > software in a single tree, so that they all play together well without > a lot of tinkering with environment variables. And _since_ there > usually is not /usr/local on Windows systems, I doubt that /usr/local > will be a good guess of where people might put such a tree. So I > _want_ them to think about the root of that tree, and I want them to > use that in the --prefix option. Ok; INSTALL should say that. The point is to make clear what your reasons are, so if I decide to ignore your advice, I know what the issues are. I had the same complaint about the Cygwin installer; it used to complain if I installed to c:/ (requiring an extra confirming click), without saying anything about why that might matter, leaving me to wonder if Cygwin would break in some way. In that case, there was a rationale posted online, which boiled down to "users might have other stuff installed at c:/". >> For Emacs users used to customizing things on Linux, the additional >> information is helpful. > > Are there such users who don't prefer Cygwin instead? I'm one :). I don't use Cygwin Emacs, because it doesn't work well with the MinGW and native Windows tools I use. Although that may have improved since I first played with this, back in Emacs 21 days. I do use Cygwin bash and make, under native Emacs; that works well. -- -- Stephe