From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please don't obsolete "crisp.el" Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:47:52 -0500 Message-ID: <85vbr21vmv.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405176499 336 80.91.229.3 (12 Jul 2014 14:48:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:48:19 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 12 16:48:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X5yay-0000og-4b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:48:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49275 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5yax-0004AT-RN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:48:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56368) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5yap-0004A7-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:48:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5yaj-0003R6-Hc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.73.227]:19499 helo=dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5yaj-0003QR-CV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:47:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] ([70.94.38.149:61918] helo=TAKVER) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 0B/66-32028-C9A41C35; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:47:56 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:42:03 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.118:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=aL1+qNNm c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:117 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=9XSUBuVRJI8A:10 a=JfKu_VkDFaUA:10 a=o_R75loqY_IA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=kzHa7Ogg1AyL4wfntDgA:9 a=ii61gXl28gQA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: BaiduSpider X-Received-From: 107.14.73.227 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173001 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Luke Lee wrote: > >> what is the correct process to move crisp.el to ELPA? > > I don't think this has happened before, so nobody really knows. :) I'm in the process of moving ada-mode to Gnu ELPA. Currently ada-mode 4.1 is in trunk, and 5.1.4 is in Gnu ELPA. At some point, I plan to mark ada-mode 4.1 obsolete, then later delete it. >> a) about Emacs trunk: Should I keep the crisp.el in obsolete/, >> or just move it into ELPA? >> b) about ELPA, should I copy the crisp.el from Emacs/obsolete/, >> or just install a new one? >> c) Aside from crisp.el itself, what other files should I change for >> both Emacs and ELPA? > > My guess: > In Emacs trunk, just remove crisp.el with a ChangeLog note something > like "move to GNU ELPA". Change etc/NEWS: add a new section after > "Obsolete packages" for "Packages moved to GNU ELPA" and move crisp.el > from obsolete to there. I think it is more friendly to users to provide both versions for a transition period, and in particular the automatic warning from `make-obsolete' is helpful. > As to getting it into GNU ELPA; yes install the version that was in > Emacs trunk (remove the "Obsolete-Since" header and add any needed > package headers). Do that before making any code changes. ada-mode 5 is a complete rewrite, so I skipped this for ada-mode. -- -- Stephe