From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: More metaproblem Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 03:27:10 -0600 Message-ID: <85vblpjfgx.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203192721.GE12748@thyrsus.com> <547F6774.50700@cs.ucla.edu> <838uio5vjw.fsf@gnu.org> <20141203211447.GB15111@thyrsus.com> <871toge5zw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <83388v6hsq.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsftgd5.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <83egsf3yci.fsf@gnu.org> <87iohq6nvn.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <83mw722eit.fsf@gnu.org> <87egse56hb.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417858059 606 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2014 09:27:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 09:27:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 10:27:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxBeE-00086K-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 10:27:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxBeE-0003Jb-7u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 04:27:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57923) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxBe6-0003IT-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 04:27:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxBdx-0004wZ-Gn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 04:27:22 -0500 Original-Received: from dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.73.231]:41164 helo=dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxBdx-0004wU-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 04:27:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] ([70.94.38.149:52478] helo=TAKVER) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C2/44-16151-0FBC2845; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 09:27:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87egse56hb.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:52:48 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (windows-nt) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.130:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=bePlUY/B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:117 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=fNEgcOh0sVsA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=o2eD-HNaAAAA:8 a=MjdYYyu98NpbmL7gtHkA:9 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 107.14.73.231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179122 Archived-At: Karl Fogel writes: > The barrier to the documentation change is when people see senior devs > pointing to etc/CONTRIBUTE as a fine place for dev documentation and > think "Oh, so the project thinks that's okay? They point to that as a > solution, rather than as a problem? I guess I'm in the wrong place." I have not seen anyone (other than you) state this. Can you please give _detailed_ reasons why ./CONTRIBUTE (I just moved it) is inadequate? Not just "I prefer web pages", but _why_. Not just "files are _so_ last century; the web is hip". It was out of date; that's being fixed, and was not mentioned as a problem anyway. > Perhaps I shouldn't have characterized that as "resistance"; it's more > "active promotion of a sub-optimal thing as though it were perfectly > fine, with implied demotion of better things that could replace it". I have given reasons why local files in git are better than web pages; please explain your reasons. -- -- Stephe