From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:33:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85u0m19lrd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy8bdqin7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:57:59 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>> I of course understand why it would override them, but not why it
>>> would set major-mode to `latex-mode' rather than to `LaTeX-mode'.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, LaTeX-mode is the AUCTeX major mode, while
>>> latex-mode can be either, depending on the user's preference.
>
>> You are confusing the value of the major-mode variable with the
>> invocation.
>
> No such confusion: I'm quite aware of the difference. I may be
> misrepresenting things because looking at the current auctex CVS code
> I can't see where LaTeX-mode is defined.
>
> The variable `major-mode' *should* hold the function corresponding
> to this invocation, so you can return to the current major mode by
> calling it.
There is no point in using both latex-mode and LaTeX-mode to mean
something differently. There is a (albeit minor) point to using both
plain-tex-mode from tex-mode.el and LaTeX-mode from AUCTeX, though.
> It's used for C-h m for example, and probably by other things
> (e.g. clone-buffer, maybe mmm-mode, some hacks to "temporarily
> switch major mode", ...).
>
>> The invocation "LaTeX-mode" installs latex-mode with AUCTeX
>> keybindings, syntax tables, mode hooks and variables.
>
> In my opinion, calling LaTeX-mode should install LaTeX-mode.
That would mean that pretty much all mode-sensitive functions from
AUCTeX would break if you tried using them in a latex-mode started
session and vice versa. I don't see the point in providing different
function bindings to latex-mode and LaTeX-mode.
>> Except that it makes it harder to have unload-feature restore the
>> state previous to the loading.
>
> Yes, but you can't rely on unload-feature restoring the previous
> state anyway because it's broken, so it's not like it makes things
> worse.
I am relying on that part of the behavior that is not broken. If I
insisted on using and programming for only systems that are completely
unbroken in all respects, I'd not be using a computer.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-20 21:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-19 15:23 Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 16:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 21:28 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 22:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-24 20:24 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:50 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 21:51 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 22:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 23:37 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25 0:07 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-26 10:04 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 19:22 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 23:14 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:24 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:50 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:29 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:59 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-21 15:30 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 16:35 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-22 20:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 21:00 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-23 22:10 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 20:21 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:32 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 20:52 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25 16:05 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 15:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:19 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 20:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 21:33 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-04-20 16:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 16:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 22:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 22:58 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 9:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 11:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 20:13 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 16:23 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 11:41 ` Johan Vromans
2005-04-20 15:43 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 15:30 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 17:46 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-19 22:00 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-19 23:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:05 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
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