From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: More bugs in Custom themes
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:46:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85u0jdgw1b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DohBq-0006Ob-MB@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:33:46 -0400")
"Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> Custom themes would be a completely new complex feature, not a bug
> fix:
>
> They ARE a new feature. This feature is already in Emacs, it is
> important, and I will not stand for giving up on it. That is the
> wrong attitude.
>
> Would you please work on fixing this? Otherwise we will have to wait
> till I have time to do it. You have been doing great so far, whenever
> you decide to fix something rather than say it can't be done.
>
> The implementation, once ready, will need thorough testing
> (people writing and using themes). It is impossible to
> guarantee a time table.
>
> I'm not asking for a guarantee, or a time table. I'm just asking
> someone to fix this feature to work.
It is a new feature, and I think we currently don't use it ourselves
in the sources. Getting a larger tester and developer base for it
won't happen without it being in the open in a released version (which
it already is in XEmacs, with negligible impact as far as I can see)
_and_ being documented as a feature.
Yes, we might not get it to work under heavy duty in Emacs-22. But if
we don't start the process of making it somewhat usable now, we won't
get it finished by Emacs-23 either. Nobody claimed that 22.1 would be
the last release of the 22.x series. For new _optional_ features, the
goal is to get them in, to get their documentation to a consistent
state, and to make a good stab of getting them working as advertised.
I should be the last to blame Luc if he decides that his personal
tastes, priorities and professional conscience don't lend themselves
to this task: it is not nice to feel responsible for code which one
considers unclean. And it is always a cheap way out of work to say
"you are better suited for it than I am". I don't want to go that
route, and I am being much less often helpful than I should because
other projects are also demanding of my time and I don't manage them
and professional deadlines well.
But while I don't want to use this as an excuse for myself, I still
want to express my admiration and gratitude about how often Luc comes
out with a good analysis and working suggestions and patches for
faulty code or documentation that was not written by himself.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-02 13:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-30 1:52 More bugs in Custom themes Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-30 21:30 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-01 1:04 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-02 12:33 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-02 13:46 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-07-03 1:55 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-04 6:16 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-03 2:15 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-05 4:35 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-06 2:39 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-06 3:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-11 5:34 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-11 5:35 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-25 1:04 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-25 11:53 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-07-25 13:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
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