From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A silly little request... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:26:09 +0100 Message-ID: <85u0bus9fy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85slrfxno7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17365.16047.466378.587174@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <858xt6veqf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17365.26093.201394.149394@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138066766 8357 80.91.229.2 (24 Jan 2006 01:39:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 24 02:39:22 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1D9G-00080r-7U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:39:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1DAM-000136-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:40:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1D5D-0006VX-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:34:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1D0r-0004xp-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:30:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1CzU-0004Zl-1N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:29:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1F1D4J-0004ZF-9U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:33:59 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1F1Cwe-00054e-1u; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:26:11 -0500 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 49F121C4F93D; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:26:09 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Nick Roberts In-Reply-To: <17365.26093.201394.149394@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:25:33 +1300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49474 Archived-At: Nick Roberts writes: > > > So it can be enabled e.g in your .emacs, before starting a debug > > > session. > > > > But for that purpose it need not be marked as an autoloaded command. > > An autoloaded function would be enough (and it would make more sense > > to be able to customize it without needing to load it at .emacs time). > > It needs to be marked as an autoloaded command because it *is* a > command, and not just a function. I don't see how this "because" applies. > > I don't think there is a point in being able to call > > gud-toolkit-mode as a _command_ when no gud-session has been > > started yet. > > Its gud-tooltip-mode actually, Mrs Malaprop. I might be singing alto, but still that remark seems more Malaprop than mine. > Someone who uses it might find it convenient not to have to enable > it explicitly each time. Having it as an autoloaded function would be completely sufficient for that. > It could be added to gdb-mode-hook by the user but thats more > obscure. And quite better, since it would not necessitate loading gud.el unless it actually got used. > > > David could always set gu as an alias for gnus (or type a bit more > > > slowly!). > > > > Sure, so can everybody else, and that holds for everything > > tripping people up while being "technically correct". > > Perhaps you'd also like something to be done about > number-to-register for when you accidentally type M-x nu, > etc. This does not seem to happen to me, and besides, the command has no really unfathomable consequences: just type C-g and it aborts. > Anyway, it doesn't matter what I think, we might as well wait for a > decree. I am not sure this warrants a decree. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum