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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, user42@zip.com.au, rms@gnu.org,
	"Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: html-mode demanding <html> a bit too tight
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:56:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85tzv2f2uj.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4631E354.3040201@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri\, 27 Apr 2007 13\:49\:40 +0200")

"Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
>> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Kim F. Storm wrote:
>>>> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>     I think if you install a ~150 line patch that affects how modes are
>>>>>     selected, another pretest will be needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not exaggerate.  There are about 52 lines of code changes,
>>>>> bu most of them are just indentation changes.  Real changes are about
>>>>> 20 lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I agree we should make one more pretest.
>>>>>
>>>>> This problem really bothers people, so we should not leave it unfixed.
>>>> Richard, sorry for shouting, but how else can I make you listen:
>>>>
>>>> WHAT _REALLY_ BOTHERS PEOPLE IS THAT EMACS 22.1 IS NOT RELEASED YET.
>>>
>>> I beg to differ. The current situation is very inconvenient and
>>> confusing sometimes when you open for example php files.
>>
>> There have been five years to go about fixing this.  NOW IS NOT THE
>> TIME!!!
>
> If I do not misremember I have mentioned this problem before.

So much the worse.  Well, you did not manage to get it fixed for the
release.  That's in line with a whole lot of other problems and
usability issues.  Too bad.

What do people think we are about to release?  "Emacs 22.1, the editor
without any bugs or problems, with no further improvements possible"?

Emacs is a _large_ system, for crying out loud.  We won't get it
bug-free ever.  The only thing that is supposed to hold up a release
is a _release-critical_ bug.  Having mentioned some problem before
does not make it release-critical.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-27 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87647ooxwm.fsf@zip.com.au>
     [not found] ` <jwvps5vry60.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <462CC030.8030203@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <87mz0y8vyk.fsf@zip.com.au>
2007-04-25 14:51       ` html-mode demanding <html> a bit too tight Richard Stallman
2007-04-25 17:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-25 18:18           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-04-27  5:59           ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-26  4:11         ` Glenn Morris
2007-04-27  5:59           ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-27  6:22             ` David Kastrup
2007-04-27 13:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-27 10:27             ` Kim F. Storm
2007-04-27 11:14               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-04-27 11:41                 ` David Kastrup
2007-04-27 11:49                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-04-27 11:56                     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-04-27 12:03                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-04-27 12:22                         ` David Kastrup
2007-04-27 21:41                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-04-27 12:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-27 14:11                   ` David Reitter
2007-04-27 20:17                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-04-27 20:53                     ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-27 21:02                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-04-27 18:58                 ` Edward O'Connor
2007-04-27 12:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-27 20:53                 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-04-28  4:06               ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-28 13:59                 ` David Kastrup
2007-04-28 14:20                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-04-29 21:17                 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-04-30 22:09                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-04  9:13                     ` unicode-2 and multitty (was: html-mode demanding <html> a bit too tight) David Kastrup
2007-05-04  9:41                       ` unicode-2 and multitty Jason Rumney
2007-05-04 10:14                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-04 20:46                           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-05-05  0:26                             ` David Kastrup
2007-05-05 21:54                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-07  9:55                               ` Kim F. Storm
2007-05-07 10:09                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-04  9:42                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-05-04 10:39                       ` unicode-2 and multitty (was: html-mode demanding <html> a bit too tight) Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-04 11:12                         ` unicode-2 and multitty David Kastrup
2007-05-04 21:18                       ` unicode-2 and multitty (was: html-mode demanding <html> a bit too tight) Richard Stallman
2007-05-05  0:17                         ` unicode-2 and multitty David Kastrup
2007-04-27 11:17             ` html-mode demanding <html> a bit too tight Leo
2007-04-27 19:51             ` Glenn Morris
2007-04-28  4:07               ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-28  8:04               ` Eli Zaretskii

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