From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Ready to start serious work on VC mode again Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 16:32:51 +0200 Message-ID: <85tzhghj3g.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <20080428181932.5BD019F0434@snark.thyrsus.com> <854p9jpm2y.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20080501080904.GB14751@thyrsus.com> <877ieeasc9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87prs5vqrm.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209738899 2230 80.91.229.12 (2 May 2008 14:34:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 14:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, "Eric S. Raymond" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Paul R , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 02 16:35:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JrwMA-0004dT-Ps for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 16:35:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43231 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JrwLT-0002QQ-57 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:34:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JrwJm-0001wy-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JrwJk-0001wA-If for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:32:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53498 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JrwJj-0001vU-TU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:32:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JrwJj-0004Jn-78 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:32:55 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58806 helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JrwJJ-0008E4-II; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:32:30 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 513B31C4F903; Fri, 2 May 2008 16:32:51 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 02 May 2008 10:27:27 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96333 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> > Multiple back ends is kind of a wacky edge case; >>> >>> I don't agree. Multiple back end workspaces are going to be quite >>> common *among the population of people who are likely to turn into >>> vc.el hackers*. DAK obviously uses them, I do, Barry Warsaw (Mailman >>> maintainer and Python release engineer) uses them on at least three >>> projects, and that's just a few folks I know. >>> >>> You want this feature to shine, I think. > >> Does anybody have a clear idea about how VC should behave in such a >> situation ? > > Currently, there are 2 ways to control it: > - vc-handled-backends whose order influences which backend is used > by default. > - C-x v b which allows you to switch to another backend. Oh, by the way: I find that C-x v b does switch to a different backend, but the mode line is not adapted accordingly. Also, it somehow considers RCS and CVS to be the same, which is pretty confusing. > The fact that backends are currently associated to filenames is the > source of the problems we need. We need them? > They should be associated to buffers instead. Or buffers should be able to override the association with a buffer-local binding. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum