From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sorting of directories in dired Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:24:29 +0200 Message-ID: <85slyqolc2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <42CC7021.5050606@student.lu.se> <42CCD07F.5010509@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120823396 3879 80.91.229.2 (8 Jul 2005 11:49:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Edward O'Connor , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 13:49:51 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqrMW-0002S8-7e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:49:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqrNv-0004JL-OC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:51:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqrEp-0001yH-7W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:41:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqrEj-0001w1-F9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:41:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqrEi-0001up-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:41:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DqrIg-0003Yc-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:45:46 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dqr9U-0006NY-Oo; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2CC761CE0FE3; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:24:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:11:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40640 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40640 Juanma Barranquero writes: > On 7/7/05, Edward O'Connor wrote: > >> I love how Emacs is a consistent environment across the various >> operating systems it runs on, and would much prefer it for the >> default Dired behavior to continue to be the same across all >> supported systems. > > That's the eternal tension between making things "right" and making > them "easy". Using the Windows defaults on Windows would be more > helpful to new users; I'd say it makes sense to lean towards the > newbie's side, if any. That's one reason why we need custom themes. That's where system-convention-friendly settings should be collected, not all across the board. This would resolve the tensions then. That way, a person coming from a Unix background can with one command let his Windows Emacs behave like he is accustomed to. Of course, settings that are _necessary_ on a given platform don't belong into a theme. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum