From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TUTORIAL and scroll bar Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:27:20 +0200 Message-ID: <85slk5kq3r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <878xly60md.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <44DAD1FF.4030603@swipnet.se> <44DADE88.8040102@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1155194909 7371 80.91.229.2 (10 Aug 2006 07:28:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 10 09:28:24 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4xs-0001ye-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:28:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4xr-0001yp-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:28:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4xA-0001u4-VF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4x9-0001tF-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4x8-0001t3-UL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GB520-0004Db-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GB4x1-0004QT-0r; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 092CB1C4D3AD; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:27:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= In-Reply-To: <44DADE88.8040102@swipnet.se> (Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv's?= message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:21:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58255 Archived-At: Jan Dj=E4rv writes: > David Kastrup skrev: > >> GTK is nice, but its scroll bars suck as badly as almost anybody >> else's. Some years ago I asked on the GTK+ developer list whether >> they would be thinking of some option to put into .gtkrc-2.0 to fix >> that for people who could live without the dumbed-down bars of >> GTK+, but nobody was particularly interested in taking that up. >> > > They seem to be content with the current behaviour. I was not asking them to change the default. I was asking for a way to change this as a user setting, in a similar manner as one can configure the text boxes of GTK+ to listen to Emacs-style control sequences, by placing gtk-key-theme-name =3D "Emacs" into one's ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file. > You can't even remap buttons, they are hardcoded in the C-code. Yes, and it would really make much more sense to have a way to change _all_ GTK scrollbars by a user option rather than being able to change that on a per-application basis. --=20 David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum