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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Next release
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 10:15:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85r6cicwoq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200805040658.m446wvLH012958@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Sat, 03 May 2008 23:58:57 -0700")

Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>   > Dan, please stop this.  
>
> Can you please first get all the background before intervening?  

[...]

> Now, I really don't like doing this, but I feel that I really need to
> get my name cleared here, so let's go back to what has actually
> happened.

There is no need to get your "name cleared" since we already
participated the original discussion.  Doing another summary from your
point of view does not change that.

There was nothing gained for you picking up the ball unnecessarily
thrown at you in this context.  I am not saying that your reaction was
uncalled for or understandable.  It is just that it did not help.
Neither did the original bickering, but it wasted a lot less energy of
the attacker than the reply did of you.

Not hitting back when nothing can be gained by it is something hard to
learn for people with a strong sense of justice (and many programmers
are so, and possibly enthusiastic free software programmers more so).
But it saves a lot of headaches and, believe me, in the end even makes
you look better.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum




  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-04  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-01  9:48 Next release Nick Roberts
2008-05-01 10:32 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-01 23:07   ` Nick Roberts
2008-05-02  0:04     ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-01 17:43 ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-01 19:52   ` David Kastrup
2008-05-01 20:30   ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-02  1:00     ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-02  6:48     ` CHENG Gao
2008-05-03  1:00       ` Bob
2008-05-03  8:09       ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-03  9:22         ` CHENG Gao
2008-05-03  9:49           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-03 18:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-03 19:08               ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-03 21:42                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04  9:37               ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-04  9:37           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-06  0:38       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-23 20:18         ` Problems preloading x-win.el (was: Next release) Stefan Monnier
2008-05-23 21:54           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-24  2:22             ` Problems preloading x-win.el Stefan Monnier
2008-05-24  3:19           ` Problems preloading x-win.el (was: Next release) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-02 13:31     ` Next release Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-02 13:52       ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-02 15:24       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-02 16:10         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-03  9:38           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-03 19:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04  0:56             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04  1:25               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04  1:40                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04  1:57                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04  3:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04  5:07                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04 15:52                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-05  1:28                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-05  5:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 21:35                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-04 23:52                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-05  0:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-05  7:43                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-05-07 18:28                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-07 19:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08  1:26                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-08  8:22                                       ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-08  8:32                                         ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08  9:04                                           ` David Reitter
2008-05-08 10:40                                             ` Jan Djärv
2008-05-08 10:55                                               ` Miles Bader
2008-05-10  8:55                                               ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-10 20:30                                                 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-10 23:53                                                   ` David Reitter
2008-05-08  9:06                                           ` Miles Bader
2008-05-08  9:22                                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-08  9:35                                               ` Miles Bader
2008-05-08  9:44                                                 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 19:47                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-08 20:56                                                     ` David Kastrup
2008-05-09  0:52                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-09  1:04                                                         ` Miles Bader
2008-05-09  6:07                                                         ` Tassilo Horn
2008-05-09  7:02                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08  9:51                                                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-08 10:08                                                   ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 10:16                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08 10:36                                                   ` David Kastrup
2008-05-09 23:54                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-05-08  9:45                                               ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 10:04                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08 13:51                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-08 13:57                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-05-08 14:50                                               ` Miles Bader
2008-05-09 11:12                                                 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-08  9:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08 13:46                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-08  2:34                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-05-09  1:35                                   ` Tool-bar changes (Was: Next release) Chong Yidong
2008-05-09  3:25                                     ` Tool-bar changes Stefan Monnier
2008-05-09  5:53                                       ` Tassilo Horn
2008-05-13 18:07                                     ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-13 18:19                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-13 18:38                                         ` David Reitter
2008-05-13 19:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-14  2:17                                       ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-14  4:28                                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-14  4:47                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-14 19:30                                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-14 20:50                                               ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-15  1:10                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-06  0:40                               ` Next release YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04 21:23                     ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-05  0:44                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04  2:06                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04  4:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-04  6:58                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04  8:15                       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2008-05-04 18:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-04 18:59                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04 20:31                           ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-04  7:36                     ` David Kastrup
2008-05-04 16:00                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 14:34                     ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-02 21:13     ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-02 21:32       ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-03  0:11         ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-03 14:49           ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-03 17:02             ` Alex
2008-05-03 21:00         ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-04  3:53           ` Eli Zaretskii

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