From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#19299: 25.0.50; "Contributing" button in *About GNU Emacs* no longer works Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:12:48 -0600 Message-ID: <85r3w9adfj.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <21636.57684.129193.880930@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418084008 31400 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 00:13:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 00:13:28 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 01:13:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy8Qa-00069C-Kz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 01:13:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36835 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy8QZ-0005xV-GV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:13:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50789) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy8QP-0005wH-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:13:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy8QJ-0002ho-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:13:09 -0500 Original-Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([67.222.38.55]:38565) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy8QI-0002gS-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 26178 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 2014 00:12:59 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2014 00:12:59 -0000 Original-Received: from host114.hostmonster.com ([74.220.207.114]) by cmgw2 with id RCCw1p00U2UdiVW01CCzmS; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:12:59 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Hd2HEE08 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:117 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:17 a=DsvgjBjRAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=fNEgcOh0sVsA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=hEr_IkYJT6EA:10 a=jrwKn-8xaegA:10 a=A92cGCtB03wA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=5RHA2hpoc8qP6M2X9GIA:9 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] (port=54783 helo=TAKVER) by host114.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy8QC-0007aX-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:12:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:45:28 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (windows-nt) X-Identified-User: {2442:host114.hostmonster.com:stephele:stephe-leake.org} {sentby:smtp auth 70.94.38.149 authed with stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 67.222.38.55 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179503 Archived-At: This is being discussed on emacs-devel, so I'm copying it there. Glenn Morris writes: > PS perhaps there is some confusion as to the purpose of this file. > > The intended audience for etc/CONTRIBUTE is people who are not Emacs > developers and do not have write access to the repo. So it > specifically does not talk about how to commit things to Savannah, etc. > (People may have added bits of such information to the file in error.) > Many people just want to send a patch, not get write access. > That was why CONTRIBUTE needs to be in the installed Emacs. There is now developer stuff in CONTRIBUTE. I suggest we move the "for non-developers" info into the Emacs manual Contributing section, and keep CONTRIBUTE for developers. Hmm; I'm assuming the Emacs manual is always installed with Emacs; is that true? > "What people who commit to Emacs need to know" is a much more lengthy > document, and IMO should be a separate one. (IIRC, Xue Fuqiao wrote a > version of it the last time this came up; see emacs-devel archives. > I have to say that I didn't like that version much.) > > Such a document is obviously long overdue. Yes, and the consensus here seemed to be it should be in CONTRIBUTE. Apparently we forgot the rationale for CONTRIBUTE. Which is a _very_ good argument for using texinfo for CONTRIBUTE; you can put rationale in comments. -- -- Stephe