From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should not tutorial always use the default global map? Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:12:36 +0100 Message-ID: <85pso328gr.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <439B82F8.4090207@student.lu.se> <87wticz1zz.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134307030 11680 80.91.229.2 (11 Dec 2005 13:17:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 11 14:17:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElR3G-00038Y-K6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:15:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElR2L-0002hL-Go for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:14:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElQY1-0007Wi-KA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:43:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElPcP-0002br-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:43:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElP8E-0001Bu-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:12:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElP9l-0002du-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:14:17 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElP6q-0003AH-CJ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:11:16 -0500 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 1F4151C4CCE5; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:12:36 +0100 (CET) Original-To: belanger@truman.edu In-Reply-To: <87wticz1zz.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> (Jay Belanger's message of "Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:33:36 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47445 Archived-At: Jay Belanger writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:38:00 +0100 >>> From: Lennart Borgman >>> >>> I just had a look at the Tutorial. No big success, because my key >>> bindings does not work with the tutorial. Should not the Tutorial always >>> use the default global map? >> >> If you know Emacs enough to change the default key bindings, you don't >> need the Tutorial. > > The person who changed the bindings isn't necessarily the person > reading the tutorial. Then the person who changed the bindings should be drawn and quartered for changing the other person's bindings, or the person reading the tutorial should be chastized for copying other people's initializiation files indiscriminately. I doubt that this case is common enough to warrant "if this is not the case, try using emacs -Q for calling Emacs" at the top of the file. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum