unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: find-library-name fails if file (with no extension) exists.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:13:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85psbfl2gk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <umz6jmija.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed\, 22 Nov 2006 20\:40\:41 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:03:42 +0100
>> 
>> > The same trouble exists with hard links.
>> 
>> No.  With a hard link you _can_ decide whether writing a file would
>> conflict with an existing file without actually doing the write by
>> looking at the existing file names in the current directory.
>
> I can do the same on Windows (and on any other case-insensitive
> filesystem).

If the file system contains a file "i.tex", will this conflict with
"İ.tex"?  If it contains "ἀ.tex", will it conflict with "Α.tex"?  Do
the conflicts change when you move from an English to a Turkish
locale?

Answer this without looking up the relevant documentation or trying it
out.  Can you?

>> >> Things like file name completion are simply something which is
>> >> impossible to get right.
>> >
>> > Really?  Then how come this has been satisfactorily solved several
>> > times already, both in Emacs and in ports of Bash?
>> 
>> It has?
>> 
>> So why do I get "No Match" when typing
>> 
>> C-x C-f /c/my docu <TAB>
>> 
>> when there is a directory
>> 
>> /c/My Documents/
>> 
>> and opening
>> 
>> /c/my documents/test.tex
>> 
>> works.
>
> You have a buggy port of Bash.  Get a better one.

This is the most current version of Emacs.  There is no better one.
That Bash shows the same problems is not really surprising because
there is no good way to avoid it.

>> And why doesn't Emacs realize that it already has this file
>> open when I now do
>> 
>> C-x C-f /c/My Documents/test.tex RET
>> 
>> and opens another buffer for it?
>
> Because the code that does TRT in this case is only compiled into
> Emacs on Windows.

Likely because in a heterogenous environment there is simply no way to
get this right.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-22 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-21 16:22 find-library-name fails if file (with no extension) exists Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 18:24 ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-21 19:09   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 20:07     ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-21 21:58       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  7:28         ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-22 12:14           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 12:35             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 13:54             ` Romain Francoise
     [not found]               ` <f7ccd24b0611220644m1d8944dq5943175c347cde3e@mail.gmail.com>
2006-11-22 19:34                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 19:47                   ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-22 20:33                     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22 21:02                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 20:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-21 20:47     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-11-21 21:04       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-21 21:47       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 21:48         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 22:23         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-21 22:57           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 23:19             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-21 23:25               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-21 23:33                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-21 23:36                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  0:16                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22  0:47                     ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  0:59                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22  1:04                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  1:27                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22  1:56                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  4:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  9:37                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 10:05                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 18:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  4:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 10:03                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 12:07                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-11-22 12:46                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 21:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 22:06                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 22:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-23 19:47                                     ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-22 18:40                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 19:13                             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-11-22 22:04                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  4:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-21 23:34               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-21 23:52                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  0:01                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  0:34                     ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22  0:38                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22  9:53                       ` Andreas Schwab
2006-11-22  4:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  9:53                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 18:38                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 19:27                     ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 22:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 22:18                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 13:16             ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-22 14:48               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-24 22:49                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-22  4:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22  9:35             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-22 18:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-22 19:25                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-27 19:32               ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-11-27 19:06             ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-11-28 19:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-21 20:06   ` Eli Zaretskii

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=85psbfl2gk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz \
    --to=dak@gnu.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).