From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering filenames with spaces Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:27:12 +0200 Message-ID: <85oe82w8bj.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <32E7C771-B946-491E-ACA1-B95F36FAF8D4@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123927433 14096 80.91.229.2 (13 Aug 2005 10:03:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , Emacs-Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 13 12:03:45 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E3srR-0000gQ-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:03:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E3suf-0001of-Ue for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:06:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E3ssk-0001ak-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:04:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E3ss2-0001WA-Ri for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E3ss1-00015f-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:04:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E3snr-0004SX-N5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:59:47 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E3sWN-000815-RQ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 211A01C4CE29; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:27:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Thien-Thi Nguyen In-Reply-To: (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "12 Aug 2005 20:55:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41990 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41990 Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > David Reitter writes: > >> I respectfully agree for the UI reasons I mentioned before. Why not >> map 'x' to the completion function? After all, only a few file names >> have an 'x' in them! > > traditionally, spaces in filenames break lots of unixoid tools, Wrong. Spaces in filenames are no problem to pretty much _any_ "unixoid" tool. The only place where they need escaping is in shells; and if you use file name completion, it will be provided automatically (i.e. by bash). Since desktop environments become more and more common for unixoid systems including free systems, spaces in file names become more and more common as well: certainly more common than most other special characters in file names. > and were thus generally shunned (finicky quoters excepted). thus, > any argument based on favoring the many at the expense of the few > will work both for and against keeping the default binding, The "many" are not just Windows users (by the way: spaces need quoting in the Windows command line, too). They are all users that don't rely on the command line for most of their work. And that certainly includes most users of free systems. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum