From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release timelines and Unicode2 branch Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:44:52 +0200 Message-ID: <85oe6x2qmz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <62DD76A1-D1A5-4B7B-A9C0-6E95A3D09F52@cogsci.ucsd.edu> <17190.6454.718716.123989@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <85wtll4guh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17190.42651.597245.266518@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126620586 23804 80.91.229.2 (13 Sep 2005 14:09:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Adrian Robert , snogglethorpe@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 13 16:09:42 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFBRR-0005Nz-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:07:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFBRQ-0002Bd-No for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EFBO8-0000vg-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:03:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EFBO2-0000s6-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:03:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFBO2-0000nS-Hh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:03:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EFBIT-00061P-3V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:58:05 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EFBIQ-0006fM-VO; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 47F4E1CE32DC; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:44:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Nick Roberts In-Reply-To: <17190.42651.597245.266518@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:14:51 +1200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42882 Archived-At: Nick Roberts writes: > > > That does beg the question as to why unicode-2 hasn't already been > > > merged into HEAD given that, using timescales for Emacs 22, Emacs 23 > > > won't be released until about 2010. > > > > So that Emacs 22 will not get released only in 2010. > > The description Miles gave suggested that unicode-2 was already > usable. The plan, as I understand it, is to merge unicode-2 to HEAD > immediately after Emacs 22 is released. It will then presumably sit > in CVS for years while a myriad of other features are added. We have been through this already. The major features are unicode-2 and multi-tty support. There are some updates from external packages like tramp that have been held back from the code base, but nothing really Earth-shattering. It sounds like a month of merging should get us through the worst, and then not too much cleaning up should be necessary: the branches we are talking about are in active use. That is the exact decision why we have already agreed _not_ to merge the bidi branch at that time. Even though it obviously forms a logical complement to unicode-2, its state of maturity is not comparable. Can we just concentrate on Emacs 22 before going bonkers over Emacs 23 _again_? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum