From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: choice for the new emacs icon Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:49:04 +0100 Message-ID: <85odafurkv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <200802050135.m151ZGDH005052@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcg9juvs.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <85mypzzksd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <874pc762kl.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203288560 20476 80.91.229.12 (17 Feb 2008 22:49:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 17 23:49:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JQsKM-0004oZ-Mx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:49:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQsJs-0002nJ-AG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:49:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQsJn-0002kI-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:49:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQsJk-0002ic-Vu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:49:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQsJk-0002iT-Su for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:49:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.46]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JQsJk-0005t4-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-11-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-11-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.28]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1434131EC13; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:49:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mail-in-11-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01430345BF1; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:49:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-061-042.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.61.42]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13C12BBB46; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:49:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3C6C51C4CE32; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:49:04 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:31:57 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/5852/Sun Feb 17 20:58:05 2008 on mail-in-08.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89408 Archived-At: Leo writes: > On 2008-02-17 15:10 +0000, Bastien Guerry wrote: >>> I don't think it properly reflects the end user polish we have taken >>> pains to apply to Emacs in the last decade or so. >> >> Isn't this supposed to reflect humour and history more than end user >> polish? BTW, I don't expect the users will deduce the actual design >> and usefulness of GNU Emacs based on its icon. > > Icon actually helps. I always feel that Firefox's success is partially > due to its icon. Linus Torvalds once jokingly stated that he considered the success of the Linux kernel over 386BSD (available at a similar time) largely due to the cool name people could associate with better than with a combination of digits and letters. I have my suspicion that there might be more truth to that than comfortable. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum