From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net>, Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GTK file selector
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:23:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85irtoadgf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17315.7877.155144.973236@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:08:37 +1300")
Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz> writes:
> > > Why do they abandon it? And what do they prefer instead?
> >
> > They abandon it because of stagnant development, the design and
> > implementation clusterfuck that is Mule from the perspective of
> > European language users (search for ö not working again!) and
> > minimal consideration for GUI users in this age of 17"
> > screens. Among other reasons.
>
> Over the last three years that I've been contributing to Emacs,
> development has been pretty active.
Which would rather explain why people are abandoning it: those three
years of development have never been released.
> Without doing market research, any notion that people are abandoning
> Emacs can only be anecdotal.
Debian by now has "emacs-snapshot" as a package. People _are_
abandoning released versions of Emacs, also because of problems in the
utf-8 department. CVS trunk is much better than anything that has
been released, but few system administrators will, even when tempted
to use it themselves, unleash an unreleased Emacs unto their users.
> Perhaps you're bitter that XEmacs does seemed to have slowed down,
> but please remember this list is for contributing to Emacs
> development, not to knock it down.
XEmacs at least sports more or less regular releases from their
increasingly stagnant development code base.
"Waiting for Emacs" would make for a scintillating piece of absurd
theater, with the particularly rememberable line "Code, pig!". I have
not yet figured out where XEmacs would come into play, though.
ESTRAGON:
Charming spot. (He turns, advances to front, halts facing
auditorium .) Inspiring prospects. (He turns to Vladimir.) Let's
release.
VLADIMIR:
We can't.
ESTRAGON:
Why not?
VLADIMIR:
We're waiting for Bugfixes.
ESTRAGON:
(despairingly). Ah! (Pause.) You're sure it was here?
VLADIMIR:
What?
ESTRAGON:
That we were to wait.
VLADIMIR:
He said from the trunk. (They look at the CVS tree.) Do you see any others?
ESTRAGON:
What is it?
VLADIMIR:
I don't know. A branch.
ESTRAGON:
Where are the commits?
VLADIMIR:
It must be dead.
ESTRAGON:
No more weeping.
VLADIMIR:
Or perhaps it's not the season.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-14 9:27 GTK file selector Jérôme Marant
2005-12-14 14:06 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-14 14:38 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-14 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-14 20:33 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-14 20:00 ` Jan Djärv
2005-12-16 20:10 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-16 20:16 ` Jan Djärv
2005-12-16 20:28 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-16 22:00 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-12-14 15:25 ` Mario Domenech Goulart
2005-12-14 20:30 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-14 15:28 ` Frank Schmitt
2005-12-15 9:00 ` Stephen Berman
2005-12-16 1:52 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-15 12:59 ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-15 15:52 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-16 7:56 ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-16 11:38 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-16 12:49 ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-16 15:40 ` Romain Francoise
2005-12-17 10:44 ` Kaloian Doganov
2005-12-17 15:16 ` Romain Francoise
2005-12-16 16:27 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-16 20:54 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-16 20:08 ` Nick Roberts
2005-12-16 22:23 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-12-16 23:23 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-16 23:38 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-17 13:05 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-17 15:22 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-17 22:21 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-18 0:38 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-18 11:07 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-18 12:56 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-18 13:40 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-18 17:37 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2005-12-18 17:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-18 20:37 ` Xavier Maillard
2005-12-18 22:36 ` Miles Bader
2005-12-18 23:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-19 14:07 ` Xavier Maillard
2005-12-19 1:41 ` Tom Tromey
2005-12-19 2:26 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-12-19 5:33 ` Tom Tromey
2005-12-18 22:33 ` Miles Bader
2005-12-17 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 22:02 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-18 20:59 ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-22 15:26 ` Lőrentey Károly
2005-12-17 16:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2005-12-18 5:24 ` Nick Roberts
2005-12-18 10:25 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-18 12:23 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-18 12:47 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-12-18 12:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-18 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-18 14:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2005-12-18 15:07 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-18 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-19 4:38 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-17 16:52 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-12-16 20:13 ` Jan Djärv
2005-12-17 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-18 17:02 ` Jan D.
2005-12-19 4:40 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-19 23:18 ` Jan D.
2005-12-20 0:36 ` Jan D.
2005-12-20 16:33 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-20 19:21 ` Jan D.
2005-12-21 5:30 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-22 9:27 ` Jan D.
2005-12-22 22:20 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23 0:09 ` David Kastrup
2005-12-23 11:38 ` Jan D.
2005-12-23 18:09 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24 20:29 ` Jan D.
2005-12-25 19:06 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-27 10:47 ` Jan D.
2005-12-27 13:31 ` Jan D.
2005-12-27 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-28 10:50 ` Jan D.
2005-12-20 5:32 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-20 6:35 ` Jan D.
2005-12-21 2:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-19 23:45 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-17 13:06 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-14 16:18 ` Reiner Steib
2005-12-14 21:23 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-12-14 16:20 ` Emfox Zhou
2005-12-15 2:08 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-16 20:05 ` Jérôme Marant
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-16 18:53 Pierre-Charles David
2005-12-17 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-18 17:02 ` Jan D.
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