From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bundling GNU ELPA packages Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:46:24 -0600 Message-ID: <85iois5cz3.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <878ujowbnh.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415303256 8714 80.91.229.3 (6 Nov 2014 19:47:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:47:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 06 20:47:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XmT1l-0003ww-7f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:47:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55796 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmT1k-0003q4-Tb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:47:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39169) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmT0q-0002zy-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:46:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmT0k-0002my-P6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:46:32 -0500 Original-Received: from dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.73.225]:59497 helo=dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmT0k-0002mj-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:46:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] ([70.94.38.149:51583] helo=TAKVER) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 20/E7-23829-110DB545; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 19:46:25 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:02:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (windows-nt) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.142:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=YJMRyH2x c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:117 a=AppmJ/7ZOOFWL/q6u6u93g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=fNEgcOh0sVsA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=zrB0NS54lVDxde0RtasA:9 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 107.14.73.225 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176479 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> In Emacs-25.1, I'd like to start bundling some GNU ELPA packages into >>> Emacs. >> Now I'm curious. What's the purpose of having a package system and then >> bundling packages? > > I'm sure the XEmacs guys could tell you ;-) > > Having a package in ELPA means that it can be updated independently > from Emacs. > > Having packages in elpa.git instead of emacs.git makes their release > schedules independent. > > Having bundled packages in both emacs.git and in elpa.git means > 2 branches to keep in sync. This says why we should have ELPA, and packages either in elpa.git or emacs.git but not both. The question was why we should then bundle some packages from ELPA in the release tarball. I'm wondering that myself. -- -- Stephe