From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist. Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:12:30 +0200 Message-ID: <85hdi0tp4h.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87zmvu6ba2.fsf@xs4all.nl> <85ll7e68ei.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <854qe2ihhi.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87d5spxzml.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <85k6mxe686.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85pswp9hsu.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1114078983 21467 80.91.229.2 (21 Apr 2005 10:23:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 21 12:23:00 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOYpW-0005tI-Vi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:22:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOYuD-0001Z6-3u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DOYle-0006cl-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:18:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DOYlY-0006ba-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:18:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOYlX-0006Ig-Ng for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:18:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [151.189.21.46] (helo=mail-in-06.arcor-online.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1DOYiO-00028R-Se; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:15:21 -0400 Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (i53879420.versanet.de [83.135.148.32]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605871169DF; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:12:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C01E61C1E222; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:12:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Andreas Schwab In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:56:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36225 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36225 Andreas Schwab writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> I didn't claim any such thing. I just pointed out that the only >> conceivable effect of the aliases in our times is to cause trouble >> and confusion. If people need a historic excuse for blaming the >> bad effects of their current decisions on somebody else, this is >> fine with me. Have fun. > > I didn't blame anyone, it's just that both tex-mode and TeX-mode are > natural ways to name the mode for processing TeX input files, independent > of who is implementing it. So why don't we have aliases for C-mode, C++-mode, Perl-mode, Emacs-Lisp-mode, Lisp-mode and so on? In all of those cases, the proper name of the language in question would be capitalized. Why do we desperately need a special alias just in exactly that case where it really is likely to cause problems? Again: do you have knowledge of even a single instance where this alias has been used, promoted, or found convenient for or by as much as a single person? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum