From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cua-mode and the tutorial Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:07:35 +0200 Message-ID: <85hczxw4uw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <44C8F069.1070002@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156759700 10137 80.91.229.2 (28 Aug 2006 10:08:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 28 12:08:18 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHe2T-0005Mk-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:08:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHe2S-0004A7-TN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHe2H-0004A2-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHe2G-00049q-C6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHe2G-00049n-8E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GHeBB-00038D-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GHe27-0006Jl-P7; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:07:56 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2C94B1C4D3A4; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:07:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:52:25 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58985 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > You're the only one involved, in this scenario, so you're > not treating anyone else badly. > > But this is a special case, and you're the one who has told me that > some sysadmins set up Emacs in a nonstandard way for _other people_. > > And what exactly do you intend to change? Enabling cua-mode, > viper-mode, delete-selection-mode, pc-selection-mode, glasses-mode, > .. any minor mode? > > Perhaps this should be done for whichever modes we find are often > being imposed on other users in this way. We are interfering in that manner with the freedom of adapting Emacs to one's wishes. What next? Will we use DRM to ensure that all variables we consider worthy are left at standard settings? Emacs is free software. Part of the freedom is being able to do things that upstream did not think a good idea. I am strictly opposed to booby-trapping Emacs with code that reverts a consciously made decision downstream. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum