From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:11:02 +0100 Message-ID: <85hct5s509.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <030d01c75b73$9fb5b1c0$8144fe91@j4f3n1> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172740355 13951 80.91.229.12 (1 Mar 2007 09:12:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "grischka" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 01 10:12:27 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HMhKq-0002bq-OC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:12:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMhKr-00008X-R2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:12:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMhJe-0008Va-Vz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:11:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMhJb-0008VB-G8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:11:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMhJa-0008V5-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.47]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HMhJa-0001Gq-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.29]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6E524B3E9; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:11:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.53]) by mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDD3279449; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:11:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-022-147.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.22.147]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFD531D8E1; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:11:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id D10B81C4D3B2; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:11:02 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <030d01c75b73$9fb5b1c0$8144fe91@j4f3n1> (grischka's message of "Wed\, 28 Feb 2007 21\:01\:03 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:67115 Archived-At: "grischka" writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > >> ... since anything but Athena behavior (and the resulting Lucid toolbars >> _have_ Athena behavior) is so much less functional as to be crippled. > >> Scroll back and forth without moving the mouse in between? Blank. >> Scroll a variable amount with one click? Blank. >> Scroll back and forth a variable amount? Double blank. > > Yes, not bad. Aside from personal preference, I'm all pro > to keep up variety in GUI culture. Not being able to do things is not variety. Variety is being able to do them in different ways. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum