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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: ams@gnu.org, Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>,
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Reset buttons in Customize
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:50:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85fyo2r7wm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877j9fg9j6.fsf_-_@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:58:21 -0500")

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

> However, an even better simplification is what I previously
> suggested: do away with the concept of "set for current session",
> and make Customize save automatically.  This eliminates the above
> confusion entirely, because the current value is always the saved
> value, as long as you stick to Customize.  (And even external
> changes would be easy to handle.)
>
> To see how non-standard the "set for current session" concept is,
> run Firefox go to Edit->Preferences.  Do you see any "set for
> current session only" button?  There isn't one -- nor in the Gnome
> control center, or the preferences of every other program around.

Which is a nuisance.

> Customize is supposed to be something that ordinary users can use.

Well, one possibility would be to have a toggle "Make Changes persist"
that defaults to on, except when the actual value and the saved value
differ.  There would be no explicit button to set or save changes.
Something like that.

However, I think that this topic is taking more attention than it
would warrant at this point of time.  We should just get something
reasonable done and move on.  After the release, it might make sense
for one or two volunteers to discuss and implement a consistent and
working Customize interface.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-05 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-21  2:54 Bug, probably related to Custom Themes Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 18:31 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 18:40   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 21:12     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 22:58       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  5:47         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  0:20           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23  4:04           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23  4:26           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 18:12             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23 19:38               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 20:22                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-23 23:18               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 23:21                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  1:50                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24  1:53                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:03                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  4:11                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24 16:33                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02  1:49                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:35                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  4:05                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24 16:33                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24 17:14                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24 21:18                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-25 19:06                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 19:38                       ` Drew Adams
2005-12-26  6:22                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-26 18:43                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 20:34                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-26 18:43                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  5:03           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:03   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:08   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:59   ` David Kastrup
2005-12-21 21:19 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 22:19   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  3:50     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-22  3:51       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  3:57         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-22  5:14           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22 17:51           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  0:29             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:36               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24  2:49                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-12-24  4:19                   ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24  4:55                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  7:04                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-25  2:52                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 23:43                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-25  2:51                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25  3:24                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-02 15:03                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02 15:38                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-02 20:26                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-02 22:11                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 16:25                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-03 19:07                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 17:58                             ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 19:03                               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-01-04 19:31                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize David Kastrup
2006-01-04 19:31                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:00                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 20:16                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-04 20:45                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:51                                     ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:04                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:20                                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:20                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:28                                             ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:34                                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05  1:50                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:25                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:27                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize Chong Yidong
2006-01-05  0:32                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:39                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Drew Adams
2006-01-05 16:35                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-05  1:35                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05 15:50                               ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-01-05 23:10                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-06  5:51                               ` Reset buttons in Customize Bill Wohler
2006-01-07 21:03                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08  3:54                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08  4:01                                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-08  4:05                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08 10:19                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-09 11:24                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-01-08  4:24                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-09  0:52                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-09  4:26                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  2:02                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  4:54                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  5:14                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11  0:49                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-11  1:14                                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11  3:27                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-11  4:05                                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11 15:18                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12  2:56                                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-12 18:24                                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12 15:11                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12 23:12                                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  5:23                                           ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-10 17:53                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10 18:23                                               ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-10 22:08                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11 13:56                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02 20:42                         ` Bug, probably related to Custom Themes Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05  1:31                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  5:46   ` Richard M. Stallman

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