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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Saving the selection before killing
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:45:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85ejjdl5af.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmyy1qskp.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu\, 12 Jul 2007 16\:31\:26 -0400")

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to gnu.emacs.help as well.

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> From: Will <schimpanski@gmx.de>
>>> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:14:01 +0200
>>> 
>>> I'd like to copy text from external applications (e.g. web
>>> browser) to an Emacs buffer. Often before I paste the text into an
>>> Emacs buffer I'd like to delete text in the this buffer _without_
>>> it being copied to the kill-ring, because then the text from the
>>> external application gets lost.
>
> I bump into the OP's problem every once in a while, but I don't like
> delete-selection-mode for some reason, so I use the patch below
> instead.  What it does is that when you kill text, before doing the
> kill (which will replace the current X-selection with the killed
> text), we save the current selection on the kill-ring (only if it
> doesn't come from us, of course since otherwise it's already in the
> kill-ring).  So I can simply do my kill and then C-y (which
> re-inserts what I just killed) and M-y (which replaces the text with
> the previous X-selection).
>
> This feature is pretty unnoticeable, so I'm tempted to install it
> just like that, but maybe people want yet-another-config-var to
> control it?

The problem I see is that it is pretty unnoticeable iff the size of
the selection is small compared to the network bandwidth.  It would be
nicest if Emacs could tell the X server "if someone asks for a
selection, tell me, and then I'll tell you whether I'll hand over a
selection, or whether you can ask the one who has it now for it."

I don't know the X protocols to know whether this is feasible with
regard to the network traffic.  It might be infeasible due to
program's expectations about the kill ring, anyway.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-12 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5fmk5pF3bo3fbU1@mid.individual.net>
     [not found] ` <mailman.3386.1184244752.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-12 20:31   ` Saving the selection before killing (was: Selection not to be copied into kill-ring) Stefan Monnier
2007-07-12 20:45     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-07-13 18:38     ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-13 19:11       ` Saving the selection before killing Stefan Monnier
2007-07-14 18:00         ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-15 22:54           ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-17  3:34             ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-17  8:21               ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18  4:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18  5:44                   ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18  9:28                     ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 20:53                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 21:05                       ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18  9:24                   ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18  9:21                 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 18:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-19  7:35                     ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 17:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-20  6:27                         ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-20 15:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-20 16:50                             ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-21 16:54                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 16:54                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21  4:51                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21  9:22                             ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19  4:25                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-19  7:44                     ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 21:21                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-20  6:33                         ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-21  4:51                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21  9:28                             ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-22  1:49                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22  7:55                                 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-22 18:37                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 20:32                                     ` Jan Djärv

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