From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: set-locale-environement: strange default detection Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:24:46 +0200 Message-ID: <85ejj5xv4x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184793903 22116 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2007 21:25:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thomas Arendsen Hein , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sascha Wilde Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 18 23:24:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IBH0z-0003xY-LS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:24:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBH0y-00057y-KT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:24:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBH0u-00056m-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBH0s-00055o-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBH0s-00055k-DX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IBH0r-0004Fu-Sn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.21]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672C315C020; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:24:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548AD28EE1C; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:24:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-086-214.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.86.214]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A5F1F9663; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:24:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id DC0541C3ACCF; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:24:46 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Wed\, 18 Jul 2007 20\:54\:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/3696/Wed Jul 18 14:56:36 2007 on mail-in-07.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75099 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: > On Wed, Jul 18 2007, Sascha Wilde wrote: > >> LANG=en_US >> LC_CTYPE=de_DE@euro > [...] >> so it should be clear, that, also he wants to be able to handle German >> texts properly, he wants his user interfaces in English. > > JFTR, I reported the same problem before: > > ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/E1Gn4h0-00057g-Uh%40fencepost.gnu.org ] > | From: Reiner Steib > | To: emacs-pretest-bug gnu.org > | Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:36:52 +0100 > | Subject: language environment should not be derived from LC_CTYPE > `---- That is not the same problem. "language-environment" entails much more than "which language should the computer pick for talking to the human?". LC_CTYPE should definitely determine the preferred encodings. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum