From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy splash screen Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:22:33 +0200 Message-ID: <85d59xxfp2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1158337412 17815 80.91.229.2 (15 Sep 2006 16:23:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 15 18:23:31 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GOGSp-0000tG-UO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:22:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GOGSp-0003Zy-AO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:22:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GOGSc-0003ZP-J1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:22:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GOGSb-0003ZC-Ok for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:22:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GOGSb-0003Z9-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:22:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GOGUo-0004DO-7x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:24:54 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GOGSa-0005cU-Ts; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:22:37 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 745441C40B5C; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:22:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri\, 15 Sep 2006 09\:00\:32 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59879 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > > "Emacs" in "About Emacs" is not redundant in any way. If you have > > multiple buffers, there is nothing that implies that one named only > > "About" has help about Emacs. > > Most applications I know have exactly one "About" menu, and Emacs does > not seem to be different in that respect. > > It's not about the menu; it's about the buffer name. There are lots > of buffers whose content is "about" something, and some Emacs > libraries might use that term in buffer names, for various > purposes. You might have buffers "*About Foo Bar*" and "*About > Toto*". But we don't have any such buffers. This seems academical. > The buffer about Emacs should be called "*About Emacs*" (possibly > with "GNU"). A buffer name of just "*About*" does not clearly > indicate what it is. As I said: having a single "About" item is common for applications. Since the menu entry is called "About Emacs", calling the buffer "*About Emacs*" seems a suitable choice. I don't find your arguments for that name persuasive at all, but since I am fine with that choice, it seems useless to haggle over just _why_. > Similarly, I don't see it mentioned in the Emacs manual. Shouldn't > it be mentioned along with the use of space as first character for > internal buffers (e.g. in node Select Buffer)? Node Buffers is > perhaps a good place to mention use of both `*' and initial space in > buffer names. That node gives examples of `*' buffers, without ever > pointing out that they are buffers that are not normally visiting > files. It is basically only a convention, but it might be worth mentioning there or somewhere else. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum