From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:51:54 +0200 Message-ID: <85acnxb2qt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fyy3hvxl.fsf@jurta.org> <01c53c28$Blat.v2.4$1bd305e0@zahav.net.il> <87k6ndkv98.fsf@jurta.org> <01c53cda$Blat.v2.4$4eb132e0@zahav.net.il> <85is2q5iwl.fsf@gnu.org> <85ll7l0vxm.fsf@gnu.org> <85mzrxg35u.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113768520 13776 80.91.229.2 (17 Apr 2005 20:08:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 17 22:08:37 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNG49-0006xq-3H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:08:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNG87-0002FJ-3F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:12:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DNG3V-0000dL-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:07:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DNG2o-0000YI-RV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNG2l-0000Nw-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:06:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DNFpo-0004jX-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost.localdomain) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DNFo1-0006DI-5K; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:51:45 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:20:15 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36063 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36063 Richard Stallman writes: > > The interface that has been proposed is defined so as to make > > complete informatoin available about what is or isn't > > supported. That makes it so complex to implement--to complex > > to be considered for now, and undesirable even for later. > > I can't quite see why having complete information about what is > or isn't supported would be undesirable for later. > > You misunderstood what I said. I did not say the feature was > undesirable, I said the complexity to implement it was undesirable. > > It seems reasonable to solve this task once, within Emacs. > > I hope to avoid solving it ever, if possible. Well, the way to do that would be to have _all_ window systems work through Unicode encoded menus, which would then reduce the test to (or window-system (uh-is-this-legal-p (encode-coding-string string locale-coding-system))) -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum