From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:57:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85acntfnlb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d5spxzml.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:02:36 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Any objection to removing those aliases?
>> These names belong to AUCTeX and are just wrong in tex-mode.el.
>
>> I don't see any reason to consider them "wrong", or to think they
>> "belong" to anything other than tex-mode.el.
>
> - tex-mode.el uses the "tex-" and "latex-" prefix for all its functions
> and variables.
>
> - AUCTeX uses the "TeX-" and "LaTeX-" (and a few more) prefixes for all its
> functions and variables.
>
> I think the above is a good reason why "TeX-mode" and "LaTeX-mode" belong to
> AUCTeX rather than to tex-mode.el.
>
> So I think it's wrong for tex-mode.el to define
> (defalias 'TeX-mode 'tex-mode) unless it explicitly intends to override the
> AUCTeX definition.
Which would be pretty pointless, since TeX-mode is never explicitly
called by auto-mode-alist or mode specifications in files (which get
downcased before getting applied), not even when AUCTeX is active.
Indeed, AUCTeX's own TeX-mode function (which can recognize more
formats than tex-mode.el) then calls plain-tex-mode, latex-mode,
context-mode and so on based on its decision, so that the user's
preference for tex-mode.el or AUCTeX can be decided by assigning the
proper meaning to those function names, and those names only.
Where a mode in AUCTeX is required functionally instead of as a user
preference, again the mixed case variants are used. ConTeXt-mode, for
example, is derived from plain-TeX-mode.
The whole separation has been maintained rather meticulously. For
historical reasons AUCTeX will need to override the mixed mode aliases
in tex-mode.el, so there are no purely technical reasons that would
require removing them. But I think that their presence in tex-mode.el
is not a good idea since it encourages unsuspecting users to do things
that will cause undesirable results when AUCTeX is installed in
parallel.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-20 15:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-19 15:23 Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 16:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 21:28 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 22:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-24 20:24 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:50 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 21:51 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 22:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 23:37 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25 0:07 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-26 10:04 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 19:22 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 23:14 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:24 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:50 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:29 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:59 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-21 15:30 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 16:35 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-22 20:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 21:00 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-23 22:10 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 20:21 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:32 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 20:52 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25 16:05 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 15:57 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-04-20 18:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:19 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 20:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 21:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 16:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 16:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 22:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 22:58 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 9:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 11:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 20:13 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 16:23 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 11:41 ` Johan Vromans
2005-04-20 15:43 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 15:30 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 17:46 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-19 22:00 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-19 23:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:05 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
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