From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Image mode Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:47:05 +0100 Message-ID: <85abzqzw5i.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87k5yxeg19.fsf@jurta.org> <87d54ob8c5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iregmafd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <86irefojcc.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86tzxzn0bx.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86ps8nmy95.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86d54nmve9.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1170805686 9548 80.91.229.12 (6 Feb 2007 23:48:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 07 00:47:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HEa2P-0007iy-Qi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:47:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HEa2P-0008Kt-Mn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:47:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HEa1q-0007vz-6C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:47:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HEa1o-0007tu-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:47:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HEa1o-0007ti-Aa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:47:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.52]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HEa1m-0002JT-Kc; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:47:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D590C4C325; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:47:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.42]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C919D2DA967; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:47:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-054-156.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.54.156]) by mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CAD2D80D6; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:47:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 29E001C4CE1D; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:47:05 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue\, 06 Feb 2007 18\:16\:11 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66047 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > The user has an idea about what Emacs will do with a file, and > will judge based on that whether he wants it to open in Emacs in > this manner. > > The beginning user sees .jpg and thinks "this is an image; Emacs > will display it." If displaying that image will cause some sort of > harm, he doesn't know any better. But neither does Emacs. So there is no sense in Emacs making it more complicated for the user to display an image. > If Emacs does something different than the expected thing, there > goes one component of security: user wariness. > > Most users are not wary of images. That's their problem. And Emacs _can't_ be wary of images since its knowledge about potential library problems is fuzzy and much weaker than that of the library authors. So Emacs can't help users to learn in a sensible manner. It can, at best, disturb them. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum