From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: frame sans decoration Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: <858y21ivgy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <20050527.040204.182736682.jet@gyve.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117160219 21958 80.91.229.2 (27 May 2005 02:16:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 02:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: zappo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 27 04:16:55 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DbUO6-0004Sh-54 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:15:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DbUSH-0003fg-6T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:20:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DbUQf-00030G-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:18:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DbUQc-0002xi-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:18:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DbUQY-0002oe-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:18:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DbUCL-0002Zz-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DbUBF-00061E-0S; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:02:33 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id ED6A31C4CE11; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:27:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Masatake YAMATO In-Reply-To: <20050527.040204.182736682.jet@gyve.org> (Masatake YAMATO's message of "Fri, 27 May 2005 04:02:04 +0900 (JST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37746 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37746 Masatake YAMATO writes: > I know well that we are in feature-freeze stage. > However, I think the feature provided by following patch is too > good to be dropped from the next release. Disagree. > As subject says, you can control(show or hide) window decorations > attached to frames by a window manager on X11 window system. > (Currently my patch only support emacs built with gtk+.) > > As you can see, the patch is very short. Actually I have not taken > much time for this patch. However, I think the impact of this patch > is not small. > > With this patch, you can use a frame as a tooltip window. > Advantages over the conventional tooltip window are: > (1) you can handle input to a tooltip window with elisp code, A tooltip is exactly there for the purpose of _not_ interfering with input. And it is actually close to impossible to move the mouse cursor _onto_ a tooltip. > (2) you can use text with faces and pixmap images, and You can do that already. > (3) you can contorol the text with faces and pixmap images with > elisp code. You can do that already. > (4) scrollbar Since it is not possible to move the mouse cursor onto a tooltip window, there does not seem much purpose in doing so. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum