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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Default of jit-lock-stealth-time
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:35:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <858xei7psc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uejoa3nbb.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed\, 28 Feb 2007 06\:42\:32 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
>> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:02:49 +0100
>> >
>> > One evidence I can offer is the number of discussions between
>> > developers where different people tried many times to convince
>> > Richard to turn font-lock on by default.
>> 
>> Where would have been the point in having it turned on by default if
>> "a large majority of users" would turn it on manually, anyway?
>
> To lower the flood of questions posted by newbies asking why they see
> no syntax highlight, _before_ they turn it on.

I can't remember such a flood.  The discussion was very much between
seasoned Emacs users as far as I remember.

>> I see this rather as evidence that people did _not_ turn it on by
>> default, and that Emacs' popularity suffered because of that.
>
> Popularity did suffer, but because newbies couldn't imagine Emacs
> didn't have syntax highlight.  As soon as they learned Emacs did
> have it, they turned it on.

There would still be that flood around to look at since newbies tend
to install stable versions of Emacs.  I still see quite a few
questions about Emacs 21.4 on the help lists.  I can't remember font
lock mode being a topic in that context lately, however.

So I quite definitely disagree with the conclusions you draw from
font-lock history.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-28  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-25 12:13 Default of jit-lock-stealth-time David Kastrup
2007-02-25 13:31 ` martin rudalics
2007-02-25 22:29 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-26  3:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-26  4:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-26 19:52     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-26 20:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27  7:39         ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-27 20:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28  7:27             ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-28 20:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-01  8:14                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-01 15:18                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-01 15:56                     ` David Kastrup
2007-03-01 16:00                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-03-01 16:54                     ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-03-01 16:57                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-03-01 17:00                         ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-03-01 17:13                           ` David Kastrup
2007-03-02  1:59                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-03 13:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-03 13:36                     ` David Kastrup
2007-03-03 15:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-03 15:24                         ` Daniel Brockman
2007-03-03 15:43                           ` David Kastrup
2007-03-04  2:00                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-03 15:37                         ` David Kastrup
2007-03-03 23:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-04  8:16                             ` David Kastrup
2007-03-04 13:29                         ` David Kastrup
2007-03-04 20:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-04 21:13                             ` David Kastrup
2007-03-07  1:05                               ` Miles Bader
2007-03-07  4:50                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-03-07  5:01                                   ` Miles Bader
2007-03-07 21:44                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-03-05  2:55                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-05  7:18                             ` David Kastrup
2007-03-04  2:00                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-04  8:42                       ` David Kastrup
2007-03-05  2:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-26 21:33       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-27  8:17       ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 20:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28  2:37         ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-28  2:37         ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-26  7:16   ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26 19:53     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-27  8:19       ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26  4:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-26  7:11   ` Romain Francoise
2007-02-26  7:35     ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26 10:20       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-26 10:43         ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26 10:56           ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-27  7:38             ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-27  8:31               ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 11:00               ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28  2:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-26 11:26           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-26 11:28             ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26 14:56               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-26 12:13             ` Jan Djärv
2007-02-26 10:24       ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-26 13:42         ` martin rudalics
2007-02-26 14:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-26 16:32             ` martin rudalics
2007-02-26 15:10           ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26 15:22             ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-26 16:44               ` martin rudalics
2007-02-26 22:55                 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-26 19:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-26 21:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-26 23:19           ` Miles Bader
2007-02-27  0:43             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-27  2:10               ` Miles Bader
2007-02-27  4:57                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-27  8:23                   ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 20:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 20:59                       ` David Kastrup
2007-02-27 21:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 22:02                           ` David Kastrup
2007-02-28  4:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28  6:35                               ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-02-28 20:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-28  7:27                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-28 20:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 23:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-27  4:22           ` Eli Zaretskii

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