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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-h K and C-h F in the Help menu
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 00:48:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <857j4g9uu7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <446F9817.1080707@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sun, 21 May 2006 00:28:39 +0200")

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
>>> Maybe you are right, but is it not documentation you are searching
>>> for in "Find Emacs Packages"?
>>>     
>>
>> No.  Not every information is documentation.
>>   
> You have a point there, but are you sure that it actually fits in this case?
>
>>>> Not a good idea since the navigation in HTML is much worse than in
>>>> info-mode.
>>>>         
>>> Maybe not for a novice?
>>>     
>>
>> We don't want to lead users into dead ends, even if it is easy to do.
>>   
> They are already there. I for one started reading the documentation in
> HTML before using Info. Now I only use Info of course, but it took
> quite a while. I think the HTML documentation helped me quite a lot in
> the beginning. Too many new things at once makes it a bit harder to
> get somewhere.

The navigation is in the menus and you page forward with space and
backward with backspace.

I am afraid that this is much better than the current state of Firefox
where keys will do nothing unless you clicked into the page
previously, and then will skip by quite unpredictable amounts and
might get stuck.

No, I don't think that an external reader is useful for somebody
learning Emacs.  The HTML is a red herring: the underlying format is
not user-visible, anyway.  I would not want to start an external info
reader (instead of an external HTML reader) either.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-20 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-20 20:32 C-h K and C-h F in the Help menu Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-20 21:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 21:38   ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 21:54     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 22:10       ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 22:28         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 22:48           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-05-20 23:00             ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:08               ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 23:16                 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:20                   ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21  3:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21  3:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21  9:31             ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-05-21  3:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-20 22:44         ` Mathias Dahl
2006-05-20 22:56           ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 23:02             ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:09               ` David Kastrup
2006-05-20 23:13                 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-20 23:22                   ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21  9:57             ` Mathias Dahl
2006-05-21 10:11               ` David Kastrup
2006-05-21 10:13               ` Andreas Schwab
2006-05-21 18:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21  3:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22  2:38         ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22  2:56           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-05-22  3:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22 20:36             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22  8:57           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-21  4:27     ` Juri Linkov
2006-05-21  3:42   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21  7:38     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-21 18:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 21:04       ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-05-21 23:13         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 15:12           ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-22 16:53             ` Drew Adams
2006-05-22 21:49               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-22 18:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-23  0:42               ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-23  3:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-22  3:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-21 17:08   ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-21 17:08   ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-21  4:27 ` Juri Linkov
2006-05-21 17:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-26 20:02   ` Eli Zaretskii

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