From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Folding emacsclient into emacs Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:28 +0200 Message-ID: <857imscvzn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87d4wodiof.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ir6gtx7w.fsf_-_@olgas.newt.com> <85bqc7hfau.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <868x79slkb.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189835819 12924 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2007 05:56:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 07:56:58 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IWQeE-00064U-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWQeD-0001EX-JC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWQe9-0001DW-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWQe8-0001DK-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWQe7-0001DH-UW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:56:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-09.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.49]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IWQe3-0008LV-J3; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:56:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.20]) by mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21497302CF2; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12856212FAE; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-042-036.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.42.36]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4B628ABA3; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 08ABC1C0024C; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 14 Sep 2007 22\:09\:45 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4274/Sat Sep 15 06:02:53 2007 on mail-in-07.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78942 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Again: it is not our task to punish users whose habits don't match > ours. > > I agree, and we are not trying to do so. We certainly are. If we create behavior _particularly_ for the case where a user's habit does not match the prescription (namely when he dares starting Emacs with a file name) that we know to be annoying in this case, then we _are_ punishing his habits quite deliberately. And the "it's for his own good" excuse does not fly when alternatives for bringing the same information across are not even considered because "it's his own fault to start Emacs in the wrong way". -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum