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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lexbind
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:07:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <857igj1myh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvejariix2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:43:22 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> (1) What are good ways to declare certain variables dynamic?
>>     `defvar' is the standard way to do that.  CL offers ways to do it inside
>>     `declare' macro calls, but I don't think it's an important refinement.
>
>> I am not sure `defvar' is enough.  The reason is that using it to fix
>> existing packages may require renaming.
>
> Yes, it may require renaming.  It's usually not a big deal, tho.
>
>>> (2) What packages will break?
>
>>     Hopefully none since the lexbind branch only uses lexical-binding when
>>     the code asks for it.
>
>> I did not realize that.  In that case, installing it won't break
>> anything.
>
> Modulo bugs, of course,

Could you list the advantages and the principal difference, and the kind
of breakage to expect?  If most developers can agree this is something
worth having in the long run, then we should make a plan when to
integrate it.  I don't have a feeling yet for the 23.1 time/feature
frame our maintainers are aiming for, namely how early we are in the
feature admission phase.

I certainly would like to have a replacement for the ugly (and
non-byte-compiled)

`(lambda (...) ... ',value )

constructs necessary at various places.  Would lexbind help?  How?

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum




  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-03 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-02 17:25 lexbind Richard Stallman
2008-03-02 19:27 ` lexbind Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 18:26   ` lexbind Richard Stallman
2008-03-03 21:43     ` lexbind Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 22:07       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2008-03-03 22:43         ` lexbind Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 23:09           ` lexbind David Kastrup
2008-03-03 23:31             ` lexbind Miles Bader
2008-03-03 22:18       ` lexbind paul r
2008-03-03 22:45         ` lexbind Stefan Monnier
2008-03-04 10:12           ` lexbind paul r
2008-03-04 15:36             ` lexbind Miles Bader
2008-03-04 16:29               ` lexbind paul r
2008-03-04 23:04                 ` lexbind Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-05  2:38                   ` lexbind Miles Bader
2008-03-05  5:08                     ` lexbind Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-05  5:58                     ` lexbind Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 17:03                       ` lexbind paul r
2008-03-14 19:00                         ` lexbind Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 22:10                         ` lexbind Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-03 22:49         ` lexbind David De La Harpe Golden
2008-03-04 23:03       ` lexbind Richard Stallman
2008-03-04 23:18         ` lexbind Miles Bader
2008-03-05 21:33           ` lexbind Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-17 22:10 lexbind Stefan Monnier
2011-02-18  3:54 ` lexbind Daniel Colascione
2011-02-18  3:57   ` lexbind Daniel Colascione
2011-02-18  4:48     ` lexbind Stefan Monnier
2011-02-20 18:39 ` lexbind Tom Tromey
2011-02-21 22:01   ` lexbind Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10  5:34 Emacs 23.3 released Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 19:21   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-11  4:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11  7:14       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-12  3:35         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12 12:23           ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 14:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-14 14:52               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 15:51                 ` Lexbind (was: Emacs 23.3 released) Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  1:59                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 20:01                     ` Lexbind Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 22:07                       ` Lexbind Wojciech Meyer
2011-03-17 23:29                       ` Lexbind Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-18  7:39                         ` Lexbind joakim

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