From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: More metaproblem Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:16:05 -0600 Message-ID: <857fxz986i.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203192721.GE12748@thyrsus.com> <547F6774.50700@cs.ucla.edu> <838uio5vjw.fsf@gnu.org> <20141203211447.GB15111@thyrsus.com> <871toge5zw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <83388v6hsq.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsftgd5.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <83egsf3yci.fsf@gnu.org> <87iohq6nvn.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <85bnnhkuep.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <857fy4ipsd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85y4qjdsg0.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <548616BE.3050701@cumego.com> <83oarcwype.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418203026 26871 80.91.229.3 (10 Dec 2014 09:17:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:17:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 10 10:17:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XydOG-0003ab-Hd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:17:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44116 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XydOG-0007U3-2o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:17:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50743) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XydNj-0007Kc-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:16:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XydNd-0006wp-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:16:26 -0500 Original-Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([69.89.18.3]:36311) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XydNc-0006wj-VW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:16:21 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 21045 invoked by uid 0); 10 Dec 2014 09:16:17 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2014 09:16:17 -0000 Original-Received: from host114.hostmonster.com ([74.220.207.114]) by CMOut01 with id RlGE1p00a2UdiVW01lGH1W; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:16:17 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=OJu0g0qB c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:117 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:17 a=DsvgjBjRAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=fNEgcOh0sVsA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=hEr_IkYJT6EA:10 a=jrwKn-8xaegA:10 a=A92cGCtB03wA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=ttMgCLtsAAAA:8 a=b52wiHABAAAA:8 a=NgIk_7xcJbbhey8i8yYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Original-Received: from [70.94.38.149] (port=56756 helo=TAKVER) by host114.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XydNW-0006Jz-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:16:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83oarcwype.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:54:37 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (windows-nt) X-Identified-User: {2442:host114.hostmonster.com:stephele:stephe-leake.org} {sentby:smtp auth 70.94.38.149 authed with stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 69.89.18.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179637 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:23:10 +0100 >> From: Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski >>=20 >> 1. How to build a project from source >> (http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2014/11/13/welcome-new-emacs-developers/ is= a >> good start). > > Is it different from INSTALL.REPO in the Emacs tree? INSTALL.REPO is mentioned in CONTRIBUTE. >> 2. How to run (automated) tests - IMHO a must if a project want to be >> perceived as modern by young developers. Without automated tests young d= evs >> will think that project stuck in 80's. Moreover, automated tests enable >> refactoring, which is standard now. Writing tests is very good starting = point >> for new devs, because one can learn about the system and make it more >> resistant to unintended changes at the same time. > > Did you look in tests/ ? We should mention that in the Emacs Developer's Manual (new name for CONTRIBUTE). --=20 -- Stephe